On Monday, 13. October 2008, CNIT wrote:
> > Output is already localised anyway, using the wiki language in the
> > Factbox and the user language in Special:Browse etc. It is technically
> > not possible (without much added processing effort) to localise page
> > contents to user settings, since the wiki page is cached for all users.
> >
> >> but also
> >> it would be nice to have
> >> compatibility with current {{#time}} calculations, which allows nice
> >> things, like "show me
> >> the articles from that category and limit to current week/month":
> >> http://sandbox.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Test_query#Date_filtering
> >
> > Do you mean we should support input of the form "2008-W41"?
>
> There should be way to perform time calculations. Maybe a input of date
> in seconds
> stored in 64bit number, so it can store dates from Noah to 2100 century.
> Then, the time calculations can be performed in templates.

Plain numbers are interpreted as years. There could be another syntax for what 
you want here, though. Should not be a major problem, if we have a syntax 
proposal.

>
>  It would be a good idea to have "cross-wiki" international format
> such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO8601 in addition to localized
> formats,
> so the dates can be imported easily from another language wikies.

That is already in place: SMW will accept English data formats in any language 
(this is a requirement for upgrading existing wikis anyway).

>
> Also, localized formats aren't fixed, here in Russia the same date can be
> displayed either as
> 13 Oktyabrya 2008
> or
> 13.10.2008
> so, it would be nice to be able to specify formatting in printouts,
> something like
> {{#ask:...|?Date{d.M.y}|...}}

We have thought of enabling this later on. It might also be possible to 
specify printout formats by example, to avoid complicated syntax. 

The { } is the first concrete syntax proposal for adding parameters to 
printouts -- for output formatting, we can use #... already, but maybe {} 
could work for other parameters. Would

?date{limit=3, format=ul}

be nice?

>
>
> Dates are horrible thing - they use complex numerical base. I've had a
> pain of building
> a query which should return pages of memorable dates from past
> centuries, where only
> day and month should match with current one.

Yes, that would be difficult.

>
> These templates helped me a lot:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Date_computing_template
> many thanks to hard work of the people who had implemented these.
>
> By the way, these templates already ISO8601 compliant:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:YMD2MJD
> Maybe it would be nice to have compatibility with such templates.

Thanks for the pointer. We will have a look.

Markus

>
> Dmitriy
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