On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:41, Adrian A. <a.adrian.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> - I also vote for an administration Web UI (maybe using GWT like we do
>> in Hupa or integrating with it).
>
> While I understand the general direction toward Web UIs, I proposed the list
> of projects with Swing UI's + JNLP for several pragmatic reasons:
> - Swing is already available everywhere Java is, so no need for extra JARs.
> (IMHO JAMES already has too many dependencies).
> - It is very very easy and fast to use a good GUI builder to achieve the
> above UIs, so it would be more suitable for student projects like this to be
> able to have something really usable until the deadline.
> This is important considering how few of the past GSOC projects made it back
> into the projects base (and remained only forgotten "experiments").
> - The effect is the same as with a Web UI (but the result is available
> faster): platform independent, and accessible over HTTP (with JNLP). Also
> note there's no heavy loading and huge concurrence in such a UI (only a few
> users).
>
> The most important part is for the admins/owners (that are not expert
> programmers) to be able to achieve their tasks, and thus to adopt JAMES.
>
> Adrian.
> P.S. If it were about Web UIs I would have proposed the use of Apache Click
> Framework in first place:
> http://click.apache.org/
> Since it's much easier to learn and use, so a student would have been
> productive in a matter of days.

Many mail servers run headless in a lights out datacenter.
The probability that I'd ever be able to use a Swing-James-Admin UI is
very very small.

And I think you're not right saying that every Java comes with Swing, BTW.

  Bernd

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