+1,

I think a webui would be much better..

Bye,
Norman

2010/3/15 Bernd Fondermann <bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com>:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:41, Adrian A. <a.adrian.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> - I also vote for an administration Web UI (maybe using GWT like we do
>>> in Hupa or integrating with it).
>>
>> While I understand the general direction toward Web UIs, I proposed the list
>> of projects with Swing UI's + JNLP for several pragmatic reasons:
>> - Swing is already available everywhere Java is, so no need for extra JARs.
>> (IMHO JAMES already has too many dependencies).
>> - It is very very easy and fast to use a good GUI builder to achieve the
>> above UIs, so it would be more suitable for student projects like this to be
>> able to have something really usable until the deadline.
>> This is important considering how few of the past GSOC projects made it back
>> into the projects base (and remained only forgotten "experiments").
>> - The effect is the same as with a Web UI (but the result is available
>> faster): platform independent, and accessible over HTTP (with JNLP). Also
>> note there's no heavy loading and huge concurrence in such a UI (only a few
>> users).
>>
>> The most important part is for the admins/owners (that are not expert
>> programmers) to be able to achieve their tasks, and thus to adopt JAMES.
>>
>> Adrian.
>> P.S. If it were about Web UIs I would have proposed the use of Apache Click
>> Framework in first place:
>> http://click.apache.org/
>> Since it's much easier to learn and use, so a student would have been
>> productive in a matter of days.
>
> Many mail servers run headless in a lights out datacenter.
> The probability that I'd ever be able to use a Swing-James-Admin UI is
> very very small.
>
> And I think you're not right saying that every Java comes with Swing, BTW.
>
>  Bernd
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