Anne,

I think you know one of them namely Chris Swan. He actually live near  
me so we see each other and chew the cud. Shame you are not in our  
locale. You could join in ;-)

Cheers

Steve T

On 20 Nov 2005, at 14:05, Anne Thomas Manes wrote:

>  Sorry -- I neglected to mention one more leading player in the  
> governance space:
>  SOA Software provide a registry and contract management software as  
> well as runtime management software.
>
>  Anne
>
> On 11/19/05, Anne Thomas Manes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  But I will share with you some basic thoughts:
>>
>> Governance refers to the processes that an enterprise puts in place  
>> to ensure that things are done right, where "right" means in  
>> accordance with best practices, architectural principles, government  
>> regulations, laws, and other determining factors. SOA governance  
>> refers to the processes used to govern adoption and implementation of  
>> SOA.
>>
>>  SOA governance involves three steps:
>>      1       Define SOA policies
>>      2       Deploy an SOA infrastructure that supports adoption of these  
>> policies
>>      3        Institute a set of formal processes and procedures that verify 
>>  
>> compliance with these policies
>>
>> SOA policies relate to issues such as:
>>      •       ·         Design principles
>>      •       ·         Preferred design patterns
>>      •       ·         Application-factoring rules
>>      •       ·         Naming conventions
>>      •       ·         Metadata requirements
>>      •       ·         Documentation
>>      •       ·         Preferred products
>>      •       ·         Product selection guidelines
>>      •       ·         Preferred domain standards
>>      •       ·         Preferred industry standards
>>      •       ·         Methods for dealing with regulatory requirements
>>      •       ·         Methods for assessing security risks
>>      •            Methods for implementing security based on risk factor
>>      •       ·         Methods for ensuring reliability and transaction  
>> integrity·
>>      •            Service testing
>>      •               New service deployment and staging
>>      •       ·         Service registration
>>      •       ·         Service classification
>>      •       ·         Service provisioning
>>      •       ·         Service configuration
>>      •       ·         Service monitoring
>>      •       ·         Client provisioning
>>      •       ·         Service modification
>>      •       ·         Service versioning
>>      •       ·         Impact analysis
>>      •       ·         Service level objectives (SLO)
>>      •       ·         Service level agreement (SLA) compliance tracking
>>      •       ·         Error tracking and resolution
>>  This list is long, but it barely scratches the surface.
>>
>>  Products that help with SOA governance include registries,  
>> repositories, software asset management systems, workflow, testing  
>> tools, web services management.
>>
>>  No one vendor covers the full SOA governance lifecycle.
>>
>>  Leading players in the SOA governance software market include:
>>      •       Systinet and WebLayers, who provide policy management systems  
>> (repository-based system for managing the lifecycle of codified  
>> policies) as well as policy compliance testing tools and integrated  
>> workflow for managing approval processes. Mindreef also does some  
>> compliance testing, but at a much smaller scope.
>>      •       Systinet, Infravio, Flashline, and LogicLibrary, who provide  
>> registries, repositories, and/or software asset management systems,  
>> which are extremely useful for managing SOA assets and which can be  
>> used as a gatekeeper for institution of governance approval processes  
>> at various points in the service lifecycle (dev, testing, staging,  
>> provisioning, revisions) 
>>      •       AmberPoint, Actional, Layer 7, and Reactivity, who provide  
>> support for governance at the service provisioning and runtime  
>> stages.
>>  Anne
>>
>>
>> On 11/19/05, Gautham Kasinath <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the brief explanation. I am reading the workshop materials
>>> from W3C on the topic, following your advice.
>>>
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Gautham Kasinath
>>> --- In [email protected], Steve
>>> Ross-Talbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Gautham,
>>> >
>>> > Normally the term governance as applied to SOA is based on the  
>>> notion
>>> > of static governance.
>>> > This is the sort of thing that WS-Policy (which is not a standard)  
>>> is
>>> > all about. A recent workshop
>>> > run by W3C looked at wider notions of governance including the more
>>> > interesting form which is
>>> > dynamic governance.
>>> >
>>> > It probably makes sense to take a peek at the W3C workshop papers  
>>> to
>>> > get a better understanding
>>> > of what governance is all about.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers
>>> >
>>>  > Steve T
>>> >
>>> > W3C Workshop on Constraints and Capabilities for Web Services
>>> >               http://www.w3.org/2004/09/ws-cc-program.html#papers
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 19 Nov 2005, at 00:33, Gautham Kasinath wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hello,
>>> > >
>>> > >  What exactly is SOA governance? Is it goverining an SOA  
>>> framework,
>>> > >  like in monitoring request-response, SLA etc?
>>> > >
>>> > >  Cheers
>>> > >  Gautham Kasinath
>>> > >
>>> > >  --- In [email protected], John  
>>> Crupi
>>> > >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > >  >
>>> > >  > Would you like to start with the use-cases/scenarios first to
>>> helpÂ
>>> > >  > narrow the problem?
>>> > >  >
>>> > >  > jc
>>> > >  > -----------------------------------------
>>> > >  > John Crupi
>>> > >  > CTO, Enterprise Web Services Practice
>>> > >  > Sun Distinguished Engineer
>>> > >  > AIM: JohnCrupi
>>> > >  > Blog: blogs.sun.com/crupi
>>> > >  > Cell: 301.526.7890
>>> > >  >
>>> > >  >
>>> > >  > On Nov 18, 2005, at 12:22 AM, Tilak Mitra wrote:
>>> > >  >
>>> > >  > > I am looking for some real world implementation of SOA
>>> > >  > > Governance, starting right from a project inception
>>> > >  > > i.e. Strategy and Visioning , through Design,
>>> > >  > > Implementation and right through operational and
>>> > >  > > runtime.
>>> > >  > > Any white paper / research work or material in any
>>> > >  > > other form would be helpful.
>>> > >  > > Thanks
>>> > >  > > Regards
>>> > >  > > Tilak
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