SOA Software (formerly known as Digital Evolution, and which acquired Flamenco Networks) has always been in the WSM market. SOA's flagship product is called Service Manager. See http://www.soa.com/index.php/section/products/service_manager/.

I think I need to understand the context of your friend's comment about "posting losses".

I suspect the comment applies to software startups trying to sell SOA infrastructure.I know Rajiv wasn't entirely happy about it at the time, but I think it was a very good move to sell Confluent to Oblix when he did. And now you have a safe and secure home at Oracle. The future still looks a bit scratchy for companies like AmberPoint, Actional, and SOA Software. What are their exit strategies?

Systinet is the most successful of the SOA start-ups, but it's still not a profitable company. (By choice -- they could be if they wanted to be, but they've chosen to invest in growth.) I can't think of another SOA startup that's doing as well. (Well, DataPower just got acquired by IBM -- that was a big win.)

But in terms of end-user companies? SOA is not about posting losses. SOA is about survival. The reason that all my clients are talking about SOA is because they see it as a necessary step to attain or maintain competitive advantage.

I suspect that a lot of companies will fail spectacularly in their SOA initiatives, though. And the reason they will fail is that they don't institute the proper governance. [now back to our previous conversation...]

Anne

On 11/20/05, Gautham Kasinath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey Steve and Anne,

Well, from what I hear, SOA Software is now moving into WSM them selves.

Now, I am quite tempted to rewind a bit and ask your opinion. One of
my friends, that has been in SOA and Web Services for quite sometime
said something like Web Services and SOA is a technology that allows
one to post losses.

Whats your take on it?

Cheers
G.

P.S. I know it is way outside our topic of discussion, but
nevertheless I posted to know your opinions.

<snip>

this thread was getting way too long...




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