There are many ways to maintain transactional integrity. Using distributed
2PC transactions is rarely the only option that works. And using distributed
2PC with loosely coupled connections is generally a bad idea.

Anne

On 12/24/06, Jim Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Yes, but having implemented SOA in several different organizations I
would say that at best we're talking 20% outside of the company and
for the 80% of SOA integrating ERP's with HRMS's, etc., transaction
support is critical contrary to what the other poster was claiming.

--- In 
[email protected]<service-orientated-architecture%40yahoogroups.com>,
"Anil John"

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Public? Intranet? At a high level, you are dealing with ownership
> boundaries. Depending on the culture of the Enterprise in question,
> those ownership boundaries may very well be Business Units within the
> Company. In another one it could very well be another Company. The
> issues of governance, motivators/de-motivators, control would be very
> similar in both entities.
>
> Regards,
>
> - Anil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
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 Behalf Of Jim
> Thomas
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:32 AM
> To: 
[email protected]<service-orientated-architecture%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: The end of SOAP
>
> You should check the topic of this group, the significant majority of
> SOA web services won't be public but used within an intranet.
>
> --- In 
[email protected]<service-orientated-architecture%40yahoogroups.com>,
Paul Downey
> <paul.downey@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 20 Dec 2006, at 16:10, Jim Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > Section 4.5 of WS-Addressing, Endpoint Unavailable would provide an
> > > interface to implementation of that capability.
> > it would if anyone could agree what that means or planned to implement
>
> > it. As it was it narrowly escaped being pulled following lack of
> > demonstrable support during CR.
> >
> > > If a transaction
> > > context existed, there are also some items within WS-Transaction
> > > that would apply.
> > right, I wonder how many people are building public Web services which
>
> > use Transactions.
> >
> > --
> > http://blog.whatfettle.com
> >
>

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