WS-Transaction isn't restricted to standard 2PC as a protocol. For
example, there is a "business activity" subspec that supports a point
in time failure model with compensation.

--- In [email protected], "Anne Thomas
Manes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There are many ways to maintain transactional integrity. Using
distributed
> 2PC transactions is rarely the only option that works. And using
distributed
> 2PC with loosely coupled connections is generally a bad idea.
> 
> Anne
> 
> On 12/24/06, Jim Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Yes, but having implemented SOA in several different organizations I
> > would say that at best we're talking 20% outside of the company and
> > for the 80% of SOA integrating ERP's with HRMS's, etc., transaction
> > support is critical contrary to what the other poster was claiming.
> >
> > --- In
[email protected]<service-orientated-architecture%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Anil John"
> >
> > <aniltj@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Public? Intranet? At a high level, you are dealing with ownership
> > > boundaries. Depending on the culture of the Enterprise in question,
> > > those ownership boundaries may very well be Business Units
within the
> > > Company. In another one it could very well be another Company. The
> > > issues of governance, motivators/de-motivators, control would be
very
> > > similar in both entities.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > - Anil
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
[email protected]<service-orientated-architecture%40yahoogroups.com>On
Behalf Of Jim
> > > Thomas
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:32 AM
> > > To:
[email protected]<service-orientated-architecture%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: The end of SOAP
> > >
> > > You should check the topic of this group, the significant
majority of
> > > SOA web services won't be public but used within an intranet.
> > >
> > > --- In
[email protected]<service-orientated-architecture%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Paul Downey
> > > <paul.downey@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 20 Dec 2006, at 16:10, Jim Thomas wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Section 4.5 of WS-Addressing, Endpoint Unavailable would
provide an
> > > > > interface to implementation of that capability.
> > > > it would if anyone could agree what that means or planned to
implement
> > >
> > > > it. As it was it narrowly escaped being pulled following lack of
> > > > demonstrable support during CR.
> > > >
> > > > > If a transaction
> > > > > context existed, there are also some items within WS-Transaction
> > > > > that would apply.
> > > > right, I wonder how many people are building public Web
services which
> > >
> > > > use Transactions.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://blog.whatfettle.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>


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