We use Swing in applets and servlets without any problem. If you develop
your product for B2B, usually all computers reside inside Intranet or have
fast connection. DSL and cable modems also eliminate the downloading
problem.

Dmitry.
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Sam Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Use Swing ?


>     Hi.
>
>     Actually Chris' answer is true at almost any rate for downloading.  In
> addition, there is a lot of hip bone to the thigh bone stuff which can
> result in an unexpectedly large number of classes being loaded and it just
> does a LOT which may not always be necessary.
>
>     To give this some meaning to the servlet list, one lesson is to
consider
> how we are implementing reuse.  Reuse is a great thing, but if we end up
> using instances of 150 classes for 150 reusable methods, we may be able to
> do things better.  Extreme I know, but something to think about.  I
believe
> that the greatest value a knowledgable and experienced consultant or
> developer can bring to the table is the ability to pick WHICH efficiencies
> are best for the situation.
>
>     To reduce irritation for the list, I suggest for further discussion to
> post to
>
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>
> although, of course, one will be talking to the choir.
>
>
>                                             Joe Sam Shirah
>                                             Autumn Software
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Use Swing ?
>
>
> >The additional cose comes from the possibility that your user may have to
> >download the swing.jar file over a 33.3K Baud modem, which will not make
> >them happy.
> >    (*Chris*)
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Phillips, George H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 9:53 AM
> >Subject: Re: Use Swing ?
> >
> >
> >> To put the question another way, do Swing classes come with some kind
of
> >> performance/resource overhead vs. AWT classes, or do you get the
slicker
> >> interface at more-or-less no additional cost?
> >>
> >> George Phillips
> >> Information Technology - University of Miami
> >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]    phone: (305)284-5143
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: James Wilson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 11:49 AM
> >> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject:      Re: Use Swing ?
> >> >
> >> > In my opinion Swing is NOT really nessessary.  If you
> >> > are very cleaver with gridBagLayout and cardLayout you
> >> >
> >> > can make perfectly functional AWT GUIs.  The option
> >> > panes are nice but you can make your own option pane
> >> > class.  The DB grid stuff is very nice but you can use
> >> > a text area or list box in combination with a text
> >> > field to do similar things.  For applets I don't use
> >> > Swing but for applications I use it all the time.
> >> >
> >> > Just my thougts,
> >> >
> >> > James
> >> >
> >> > --- KIRAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > Hello Everybody,
> >> > > I want to know how advantageous it is  to use swing
> >> > > components in the
> >> > > applet GUI design. I have installed the JAVA 1.1
> >> > > plugin in both the IE
> >> > > 5.0 and NS 4.5 browsers. I have used swing
> >> > >
> >> > components(JPanel,JButton,JTextField,JLabel,JComboBox).
> >> > > The applet is not being displayed in both the
> >> > > browsers.
> >> > > The ERROR - in IE 5.0 - applet <name> cannot be
> >> > > instantiated.
> >> > > The ERROR - in NS4.5 - class definition not found
> >> > > (java.swing.JPanel).
> >> > >
> >> > > Is it OK to use the JBCL grid control?
> >> > >
> >> > > I'am also having problem editing in the swing
> >> > > controls.
> >> > >
> >> > > I'am sorry that this question is not related to
> >> > > servlets, but I soon
> >> > > will be having a lot of questions on that too.
> >> > > Any suggestions on GUI design and Layout are
> >> > > welcome.
> >> > > Thanks everybody. I'am getting all my help from you
> >> > > people and I
> >> > > appreciate it.
> >> > > Bye.
> >> > > -Kiran.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
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