RK Below is a comment that was posted three years ago on this forum by a user of the FitChip. Since you would not believe what I said maybe you can believe another member of this forum. If those nameless people you mention have a problem with the system why have I not heard from them. I do give every one a 30 day free trail period to decide if the system is for them or not as well as continued support on interpreting the data. Have you ever taken advantage of trying it for your self rather them depending on here say?
"Hi Harry I have been fitting and selling golf clubs for a long time, I've done it in stores and have had two ranges, I can tell a guys club head speed blind folded just by the sound. I only say this to let you know that I have a good amount of experience. I started using Fit Chip in my retail store on 4/10/02 and just today tracked the sales thru 11/08/02 and I was amazed at the sales to return rate, especially since we tell every customer that if they are not happy we are not happy, the last thing we want is for their driver or whatever to end up in the garage, it doesn't help them, and it doesn't help us, we want people out there whooping it up about their purchase. I have had 1,275 retail sales during this period and have had only 9 returns, that is UN heard of in this business, that is a 99% stick rate, now granted I always reserve the right to use my better judgment to over rule the Chip, but it is a great guide line for fitting if properly interpreted. I do have demo's in a variety of flex's and a range near by which I routinely send people to and more often than not they like the club best that is close to the freq. that the Chip recommended when the data was properly interpreted. You guys are eager to slam Lloyd and granted I don't know your history with him, but I do know that he is on to something and it's outside the box of conventional thinking. David" llhack > [Original Message] > From: golf-equipment <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com> > Date: 10/13/2005 4:16:38 PM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Wishon Short Driver Article > > My question to you Lloyd is this, how many people do you miss fit using > that piece of crap that you are Calling "THE FIT CHIP", MY Ass more likely > the UNFIT CHIP from everybody that I've heard from, past owners, of your > device was that it was just that "A PIECE OF CRAP" > > RK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lloyd Hackman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Wishon Short Driver Article > > > > TFlan > > > > Every one that buys clubs from my shop has hit a driver and 5 Iron in the > > recommended frequency prior to getting their clubs built and satisfied > > themselves that what has been recommended is better then what they have. I > > try to train every fitter using the FitChip in its proper use but can not > > guarantee that they will use it as designed or adjust its results with > > their own interpretations. I know for a fact that I had one fitter doing > > just that in the same area where my shop is and I ended up refitting many > > of his customers and he went out of business. > > > > llhack > > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: tflan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com> > >> Date: 10/12/2005 8:08:32 PM > >> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Wishon Short Driver Article > >> > >> I won't discuss this on the forum cuz I don't want to get nailed with a > >> slander or any other kind of suit. Suffice to say the guy is a pro who > > has a > >> fitted out van. He travels to different areas, fits golfers, and sells > > them > >> clubs. > >> > >> Now, there's no question at all as to the slope of the set of irons he > > built > >> for the guy in question. The player, a really good striker of the ball > > with > >> a handicap in the + range, was hitting Ping I3's. He has charted > > distances > >> with every single club in the set. He got his new, FitChip suggested > > irons > >> and couldn't come anywhere near the distances or directions he had with > > the > >> Pings. We compared lofts and lies and adjusted the new set to match the > >> Pings. Still, rather than hit, for example, his new 9 iron 140 yds, as he > >> did with the Ping, he hit it 129 yds. Now, I'm not exaggerating one bit, > >> Every club in the set was either shorter or longer by large numbers. He > >> asked me how come. I told him the shafts, parallel Rifles supposedly > > flexed > >> to 5.7, were probably off the mark. So we popped the grips and freq'd > > every > >> one of the clubs. The curve looked like a profile of the Alps. Freq's > > were > >> all over the chart. > >> > >> It's entirely possible that the builder used crappy Rifle blanks, or that > > he > >> misinterpreted the data. But there's absolutely no question that this set > >> rivalled even the worst OEM set I've worked on. > >> > >> One more thing about this. This is the second set of irons I've reshafted > >> from sets that were fitted by your device. The first set were so stiff > > the > >> guy could hardly get the ball in the air. So something's wrong somewhere, > >> either with the device or with the clubmaker, or both. > >> > >> This is empirical stuff Lloyd, not theory. I've been at this biz for a > >> helluva lotta years and as you no doubt are aware, I would never build a > > set > >> of clubs for a guy based upon a computer readout. He has to hit the clubs > >> first before I ever let him pay a dime. > >> > >> TFlan > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Lloyd Hackman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:28 PM > >> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Wishon Short Driver Article > >> > >> > >> > Tflam > >> > > >> > Who was the club builder that built that set of clubs you refer to? The > >> > fitChip dose not build the clubs or recommend frequencies in set that > >> > don't > >> > fall on straight slope or a smooth curve. > >> > > >> > llhack > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > >
