Speaking as a regular ol' member

>It seems, to me, that if the RPKI can't be used to actually validate who
>owns what route with certainty, we're going to a lot of trouble for
>nothing... Or maybe folks are trying to have their cake and eat it to.
>"We'll provide solid security which you can ignore if you like, no
>problem."

Routing policy has always been left to the local operator.  You suggest a 
change to a mandated global common policy.  I don't think that could ever fly 
with the operators.

>I know this goes back to the difference between "unknown," and
>"invalid," but if all address space which no-one actually claims is open
>for whatever use anyone wants, then are we really making any progress in
>any meaningful way?

So a flag day would be preferable, when everyone would be required to have 
certified their address space?

If not, incremental deployment requires handling the case of "no-one actually 
claims" the space.

For the "no-one actually claims" space, that space will be subject to the same 
attacks as exist now.  Pretty much the same with any new but unused protection 
system.

--Sandy, speaking as regular ol' member

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