Despite some of the negative comments, this is still good to see - MS making lots of big changes recently to change the culture, perception and use of its products. Shameless plug to interview with Nick Hodge from Microsoft about all things Microsoft including its 'free' developer tools eg Visual Studio Express etc.. - http://www.instantiatepodcast.com - episode #10 .
On Jul 18, 10:00 am, Dylan Jay <d...@pretaweb.com> wrote: > On 17/07/2009, at 4:19 PM, Mark Burch wrote: > > > > > It might be helpful to the group to take a look at this from the > > Microsoft perspective - to understand the context. > > Some are probably wondering why MS is giving this stuff away. > > Basically in a nutshell, this is the Microsoft compete strategy for > > things like LAMP. > > Microsoft wants startup companies to start on the Microsoft > > platforms based on the assumption that if your startup is successful > > eventually you're going to need to buy 100s of windows servers and > > dozens of sql servers and so on. > > > Its kind of Microsoft's version of "no win, no fee". If your startup > > wins, you'll eventually buy lots of Microsoft software. If your > > startup loses, Microsoft loses nothing. > > It's an admission that most new startups run on opensource and the > bottom has fallen out of the developer tools market. MS has always > known it's about the developers. Get them skilled on your products not > someone elses. > > > > > Regards, > > Mark Burch > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com > > ] On Behalf Of Sam Lai > > Sent: Friday, 17 July 2009 4:02 PM > > To: silicon-beach-australia@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [SiliconBeach] Re: Free Microsoft Licences for Tech Start Ups > > > The $100 fee on exit is described here - > > > "Don't pay for Access to BizSpark! > > If you meet the above enrollment criteria, you can join BizSpark > > through a valid BizSpark Network Partner or by contacting Microsoft > > directly. There are no upfront fees for BizSpark access, enrollment > > or registration services, just a $100 Program Fee upon program exit." > > >http://www.microsoftstartupzone.com/BizSpark/Pages/At_a_Glance.aspx > > >> The "Points service" and "Bing Cashback" sounds like a great way for > >> Microsoft to get you to do things beneficial to Microsoft. At the > >> very > >> least, I would find this to be a distracting annoyance. Can someone > >> put to > >> me a good reason for joining BizSpark based on participation in > >> "Points > >> service" or "Bing Cashback"? > > > On a cursory look, I can't find the contract on their website > > (probably buried deep in the enrollment process), but one I did find > > via Google doesn't mention either > > (http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/4/c/e4c42570-d868-47ea-bb5d-... > > ). > > > Having access to the 'points service' basically means you can sell > > things on the Xbox Marketplace. Points (or more officially known as > > Microsoft Points) is a virtual currency used on the Xbox/Zune > > Marketplace (and probably in other Microsoft places soon). You > > probably won't end up utilising it, given it is mainly for games and > > media content. > > > Not sure how the 'Bing cashback' program would tie in though. > > >> Owen. > > >> 2009/7/17 Owen Thomas <owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com> > > >>> This answers the question regarding IP: > > >>> 9. Your Content. > > >>> You may be able to submit content for use in connection with the > >>> service. > >>> You understand that Microsoft does not control or endorse the > >>> content that > >>> you and others post or provide on the service. Except for material > >>> that we > >>> license to you, we do not claim ownership of the content you post > >>> or provide > >>> on the service. > > >>> However, I wonder what value I will get from such a service? Is > >>> there > >>> anything "Open" like this elsewhere? What is the value > >>> proposition? Do I > >>> have to pay a "subscription fee" to use this service? If so, why > >>> would I > >>> want to? > > >>> Owen. > > >>> 2009/7/17 Owen Thomas <owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com> > > >>>> If I join this BizSpark thing, will Microsoft automatically > >>>> assert any > >>>> rights to my IP? > > >>>> 2009/7/17 Owen Thomas <owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com> > > >>>>> What is "BizSpark"? Might this help me with Clique Space? > > >>>>> 2009/7/17 Richard Buggy <r...@buggy.id.au> > > >>>>>> Do you still need to have a BizSpark partner sponsor you? The > >>>>>> last time > >>>>>> I looked I found one partner that was charging $500 for a > >>>>>> sponsorship > >>>>>> package. > > >>>>>> Rich > > >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Aymeric Gaurat-Apelli > >>>>>> <lavieestbe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>> I believe you have to pay 100$ when you leave the program > >>>>>>> (which is > >>>>>>> still good) > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM, purc...@gmail.com > >>>>>>> <purc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> Just found out about the Microsoft BizSpark program yesterday. > > >>>>>>>> Basically you can download most MS software for free if you > >>>>>>>> are a > >>>>>>>> start up in the tech space developing technology etc... and > >>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>> under > >>>>>>>> a certain amount of profit/revenue. > > >>>>>>>> DL's seem to range from Office, visio and project, multiple > >>>>>>>> flavours > >>>>>>>> of OS as well as small biz server, exchange, server 2k3 and > >>>>>>>> all of > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> visual studio development tools. > > >>>>>>>> Thought it might come in handy if you need to buy anything MS > >>>>>>>> software, you can sign up here:http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/ > > >>>>>>>> Cheers > > >>>>>>>> Dan > > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Aymeric Gaurat-Apelli > > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Rich Buggy > >>>>>> r...@buggy.id.au > > >>>>> -- > >>>>>www.cliquespace.net > >>>>> Clique Space(TM) Facebook Group: > >>>>>http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=81335296379 > >>>>> Owen's Garden of Thought:http://owenpaulthomas.blogspot.com/ > > >>>> -- > >>>>www.cliquespace.net > >>>> Clique Space(TM) Facebook Group: > >>>>http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=81335296379 > >>>> Owen's Garden of Thought:http://owenpaulthomas.blogspot.com/ > > >>> -- > >>>www.cliquespace.net > >>> Clique Space(TM) Facebook Group: > >>>http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=81335296379 > >>> Owen's Garden of Thought:http://owenpaulthomas.blogspot.com/ > > >> -- > >>www.cliquespace.net > >> Clique Space(TM) Facebook Group: > >>http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=81335296379 > >> Owen's Garden of Thought:http://owenpaulthomas.blogspot.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon Beach Australia mailing list. 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