Hey Alan, I ain't got no beef with the list. I did comment on Twitter once that the first thing I noticed there was not one woman, but it was an observation, not a rant. All good things need a first step, and it's great that you guys have done that.
To be clear, my response was only to Elias' email, which I didn't get. De nada, will chat with him abt it when we meet face to face. If I get a job and get to stay here in SF, there will always be a couch available for any Aussie... unless another Aussie's already on it ;) The same offer has stood all along in Sydney. Support mate - I not only preach it. :) On 21 August 2010 03:08, alan jones <alan.jo...@gmail.com> wrote: > No sekrit plot Rai, just lean startup principles in action — "this is > a good enough mix of skills/pool of funds to get started, let's get > started and we can tweak it as we go." or words to that effect. Might > have been sexism if Niki had started with a list of all the tech > startup founders in AU and then just chosen men from that list, but > compiling that list might have taken another year and we'd be no > closer to funding our first startups. That would be non-lean. > > If there are women who can help and want to commit the time and the > money, shout out. Niki's an accessible guy. If there's *anybody* with > the skills, experience, time and money, shout out. > > Rai, hopefully you'll have a couch some of our demo trip people can > crash on. You'll have a captive audience to ear-bash about sex bias in > startup tech and a bunch of grateful startup founders when you need a > favour. > > Alan > > > On Aug 20, 10:34 am, dekrazee1 <dekraz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Agree with you Elias that it has to be merits based. > > Have a look at that list. Everyone on that list has different > > strengths and experiences. Surely there'd be at least one woman in the > > Aussie tech scene whose skills would augment the rest of the group? > > Maybe one day eh? > > > > Meanwhile, I can't understate what a 'boys club' the tech scene is, be > > it Sydney or the Valley. Don't dismiss the gender inequality by saying > > it's based on merit. > > I won't go into specifics. Suffice to say being a woman in tech makes > > it MUCH harder. > > > > And this: > > > > >If you're a female in 'tech', that means > > > just as much as a soccer enthusiast in the world cup. > > > > I hope I'm reading you wrong there. wtf dude? > > > > On Aug 19, 5:02 pm, Elias Bizannes <elias.bizan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Jesus - that didn't even cross my mind when I read the bios of these > people. > > > Yes how sexist of me, but that's because I was ticking the mentors off > based > > > on how I thought they fit in terms of ability. > > > > > The day women will advance is not when we tick a box because something > > > filled the gender quota, but when we see them stand on their own merits > and > > > are roaring omissions. There are few females in Australian tech who I'd > > > recommend on that list - not because they lack talent, but because > there are > > > few that have the specific startup experience that the above mentioned > roll > > > call has. Arguably, I'd say that about Australia in general, so it's > not > > > about women but more to do with Australia's stunted development in the > tech > > > startup world. > > > > > Both the men and women in Silicon Valley are streets ahead in calibre > of the > > > people in Australia - and those people on the launch list are about as > close > > > as Australia has to being on par. If you're a female in 'tech', that > means > > > just as much as a soccer enthusiast in the world cup. Raw successful > tech > > > startup experience and ability is a very specific thing: not a lot of > people > > > have it. > > > > > Elias Bizanneshttp://eliasbizannes.com > > > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:28 PM, rc <rebeccacan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Re StartMate: great to see. > > > > > > However 21 mentors and not one female? > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon > Beach > > > > Australia mailing list. > > > > > > Guidelines on discussion:http://tr.im/ujKF > > > > > > No lurkers! 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