> Back end is the Leonardo, and while some back end developers may be > incredibly talented and know every language under the sun, a university > graduate or even a nerd living in his mum's basement is capable of exactly > the same thing, given 2 hours or 2 days more time to work on the same > project. If there is any issue with the quality of back end developers it's > more to do with scaling system resources. A Leonardo Da Vinci PHP developer > would make the most efficient database system that might require 20 servers, > whereas the uni graduate or self taught developer will end up needing 50 > servers and twice the crew to maintain it.
It's not quite that simple (though your point on scaling is valid) - a great back-end developer will not only build something at a decent pace, but also cleanly - and while ugly code may not impact you straight away, when you bring more people into the team, add more features or fix bugs, this matters. And sure, a less talented developer may take only another day or two per feature, that adds up - as does the debt of bad code. -- Pat On 23/06/2011, at 5:18 PM, James Hilton wrote: > I haven't FULLY read ALL of these threads, but I'll just throw my input in > here as a developer based on what I understand this discussion is about.... > > There's front end developers and back end developers. > > Front end is the Van Gogh and YES, they CAN influence the success of a web > application. Think Blogger, Typepad, Tumblr, Wordpress.com and all those > other almost identical blogging services. The winner will be the best looking > one, because the only people who care about coding and functionality are the > developers/founders/nerds. Your sister/mother cares about the nicest looking > one with the most simplified user interface and that is what the front end > developer handles. > > Back end is the Leonardo, and while some back end developers may be > incredibly talented and know every language under the sun, a university > graduate or even a nerd living in his mum's basement is capable of exactly > the same thing, given 2 hours or 2 days more time to work on the same > project. If there is any issue with the quality of back end developers it's > more to do with scaling system resources. A Leonardo Da Vinci PHP developer > would make the most efficient database system that might require 20 servers, > whereas the uni graduate or self taught developer will end up needing 50 > servers and twice the crew to maintain it. > > When it comes to security, while I'm no expert at security, I believe the > quality of the developer is much more important. > > > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Bart Jellema <b...@rtje.net> wrote: > Coding is art (at least in innovative start-ups/companies). Would you rather > have a group of 1000 decent painters or Van Gogh, Picasso and Da Vinci > collaborating... In my mind this has nothing to do with productivity because > 'great hackers' produce an entirely different type of output. > > Sent using ZEROmail... > > Martin Paulo wrote: >> This podcast seems topical to this discussion: >> >> http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/06/se-podcast-09/ >> >> >> The page gives a good overview of the discussion, with links, if you >> just want to skim it. >> >> Martin >> >> -- >> ================================================================== >> >> Martin Paulo, BSc. >> Software Developer >> >> Tel : >> +61-3-9434 2508 >> (Home) >> Tel : 04 205 20339 (Mobile) >> Site: >> http://www.thepaulofamily.net >> >> >> "Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded" - Yogi Berra. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Silicon Beach >> Australia mailing list. >> >> Guidelines on discussion: >> http://groups.google.com/group/silicon-beach-australia/msg/351e183e1303508d?hl=en%3Fhl%3Den >> >> >> No lurkers! 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