One of the fundamental questions goes beyond the issue of immunizations, which is a very, very complex issue, and probably not entirely one way or the other, as some discussants would have it. (For example, some immunizations may well be more effective and safer than others, and as for the mercury, it absolutely does NOT have to be used as a preservative if smaller doses were prepared. That the stuff stays in is a damning indictment of the profit motive, but not necessarily of the immunizations themselves.)

The issue that seems to trouble one member the most is the idea of government control and the use of violence to enforce some social action. I think this issue troubles a good number of people in the government before, and I've heard discussions about what would be done in various hypothetical cases. Here's one: a boarding school full of kids has to be quarantined because one or more of them suddenly develops something like Ebola. As soon as quarantine is declared, hordes of parents, some armed, descend on the school determined to get their kids out, and to hell with anyone else, the authorities included.

In such a scenario, how would one respond? I'd say the everyone in the boarding school would have to be quarantined and that the angry parents would have to be disarmed. I imagine others would say otherwise. Other very tough calls involve efforts to stop fetal alcohol syndrome by imprisoning irremediably alcoholic mothers during pregnancy. It would be interesting to hear some reasoned opinions about the broader issue of control.

As for the hypothetical question below, I think the problem may be that immunizations are not 100% effective for everyone over all of a lifetime, and even advocates admit that. The game plan is to keep infectivity low, I think. I'm no expert.





On Thursday, Oct 18, 2007, at 13:15 Asia/Tokyo, Simon Jester wrote:

I repeat my question...

If you believe vaccinations work, and you are vaccinated, WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE UNVACCINATED?

Sometimes the greater good for society is bitter medicine, pun intended.

Sounds familiar - like something Hitler or Stalin would have said...


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