Hello Ode,

I would speculate that if you turned blue when you drowned in the pool, they
would insist that it was the silver... :)

Tom

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ode Coyote" <odecoy...@windstream.net>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: CS>FDA approval


>    Yup..and I think it was someone on this list that made the original
inquiry.
>   Specific questions got a specific answer for a change.
>
>
>   Quoting from Alexander G. Schauss, Ph.D. (John Hopkins University)
>
> &you should be advised that we recently completed an extensive review of
> the scientific literature on the afety of silver, especially as it relates
> to its one known potential side effect, namely, Argyria. Argyia is an
> irreversible discoloration of the pigment (skin) caused by excessive
silver
> intake or chronic exposure to silver by certain tissues. The amount of
> silver required to develop Argyria is estimated to be 3.8 grams per day.
>
> That's the first time I've heard the "Per Day" statement and the minimum
> seems to range between 2 and 4 grams depending on who's talking, usually
> with no time period specified or considering any hint of an elimination or
> absorption rate.....which sort of leaves us with a few tough to define
> assumptions about *retention* being a huge factor.
>   PHD [Piled higher and deeper, once again ]
>
>   I think I could probably swallow a One Troy Ounce Silver Eagle every day
> from now on and not retain any significant amount of silver.
>   [Then drown in a pool of water due to having so much ballast...but it
was
> da silver whut killed im. ]
>
>   It's that very lack of context that makes all the dosing recommendations
> I've run across [so far ] ....totally worthless.
>
>
> Paraphrasing Mike D
>   If it worked, it was enough.
> Adding
>   If more still doesn't work, do that differently till it does, or try
> something else.
> ..and once the reason for doing it doesn't apply, forgetting to do it is
> easy...so quit.
>
> ..and there's more than one way to turn blue.  Being dead is one of them.
>
> Ode
>
>
> At 03:37 PM 2/6/2010 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hello Ode,
> >
> >I am sure you have seen this FDA communication...
> >
> >http://www.happyherbalist.com/fda_report.htm
> >
> >I found the language very interesting.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ode Coyote" <odecoy...@windstream.net>
> >To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:42 AM
> >Subject: Re: CS>FDA approval
> >
> >
> > > If you need "approval" for everything you do, you'll never do
anything.
> > >
> > >    The very reason we make EIS and use it is because we are CHEAP and
> >don't
> > > give a hoot WHAT the FDA says.
> > > Besides
> > >   Even the FDA can't afford to test things to their own standards.
> > >
> > > Their "final word" [in so many words] reads like:
> > > "We don't know, we don't want to know, we've found no reason to want
to
> > > know....so shut up and do what you want to....just don't make claims
and
> >we
> > > won't have to come down there and slap you
> > > ..and if you ASK, we'll just say no to cover our buttocks.....so don't
> >ask.
> > > "  [Likewise with the Product Safety Commission....if we don't know,
just
> > > say no to be safe.]
> > >
> > >   "Not proven safe and effective" [FDA double talk]  just means it
hasn't
> > > been tested, which ISN'T proof of being unsafe or ineffective.
> > >
> > >   The FDA situation is such that they can't afford to prove ANYTHING
and
> > > have to rely on those that CAN afford to...which can have a few
"problems"
> > > now and then.
> > >   But then, yanking something from the shelves to cover their buttocks
in
> > > the face of a consumer scare, has happened many times.
> > >
> > > But never with EIS.
> > >   They are far more concerned with what's ON bottle, than what's in
it.
> > >
> > > FOIA request has established that the FDA has no matching records
> > > concerning "EIS" of any reported cases, yea OR nay.
> > >
> > > If it works, no harm done.....if it doesn't.....loop back to the
medical
> > > establishment. [and maybe the SAME harm done that would have happened
> > > anyway, had you not tried. ]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ode
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 04:52 PM 2/5/2010 -0800, you wrote:
> > > >There has been a LOT of discussion about FDA approvals and what it
takes
> > > >to get them and how much it costs, etc.
> > > >
> > > >OK, so?   How many people are there now who make their own EIS?
> > > >
> > > >How many people are there in addition who might want to use it if it
were
> > > >FDA approved?
> > > >
> > > >Hundreds?  Thousands?  More?
> > > >
> > > >Individually we do not have the resources of a large pharmaceutical
> > > >company, but together, all thousands of us, maybe we could put
together
> > > >the wherewithall to do the research, conduct the tests, and perfect a
> > > >product that could be FDA approved!
> > > >
> > > >Why not?
> > > >
> > > >Any interest out there, besides me?
> > > >
> > > >Dick
> > > >
> > > >
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