Hello Ode, I would speculate that if you turned blue when you drowned in the pool, they would insist that it was the silver... :)
Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ode Coyote" <odecoy...@windstream.net> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 6:15 AM Subject: Re: CS>FDA approval > Yup..and I think it was someone on this list that made the original inquiry. > Specific questions got a specific answer for a change. > > > Quoting from Alexander G. Schauss, Ph.D. (John Hopkins University) > > &you should be advised that we recently completed an extensive review of > the scientific literature on the afety of silver, especially as it relates > to its one known potential side effect, namely, Argyria. Argyia is an > irreversible discoloration of the pigment (skin) caused by excessive silver > intake or chronic exposure to silver by certain tissues. The amount of > silver required to develop Argyria is estimated to be 3.8 grams per day. > > That's the first time I've heard the "Per Day" statement and the minimum > seems to range between 2 and 4 grams depending on who's talking, usually > with no time period specified or considering any hint of an elimination or > absorption rate.....which sort of leaves us with a few tough to define > assumptions about *retention* being a huge factor. > PHD [Piled higher and deeper, once again ] > > I think I could probably swallow a One Troy Ounce Silver Eagle every day > from now on and not retain any significant amount of silver. > [Then drown in a pool of water due to having so much ballast...but it was > da silver whut killed im. ] > > It's that very lack of context that makes all the dosing recommendations > I've run across [so far ] ....totally worthless. > > > Paraphrasing Mike D > If it worked, it was enough. > Adding > If more still doesn't work, do that differently till it does, or try > something else. > ..and once the reason for doing it doesn't apply, forgetting to do it is > easy...so quit. > > ..and there's more than one way to turn blue. Being dead is one of them. > > Ode > > > At 03:37 PM 2/6/2010 -0800, you wrote: > >Hello Ode, > > > >I am sure you have seen this FDA communication... > > > >http://www.happyherbalist.com/fda_report.htm > > > >I found the language very interesting. > > > >Tom > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ode Coyote" <odecoy...@windstream.net> > >To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > >Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 6:42 AM > >Subject: Re: CS>FDA approval > > > > > > > If you need "approval" for everything you do, you'll never do anything. > > > > > > The very reason we make EIS and use it is because we are CHEAP and > >don't > > > give a hoot WHAT the FDA says. > > > Besides > > > Even the FDA can't afford to test things to their own standards. > > > > > > Their "final word" [in so many words] reads like: > > > "We don't know, we don't want to know, we've found no reason to want to > > > know....so shut up and do what you want to....just don't make claims and > >we > > > won't have to come down there and slap you > > > ..and if you ASK, we'll just say no to cover our buttocks.....so don't > >ask. > > > " [Likewise with the Product Safety Commission....if we don't know, just > > > say no to be safe.] > > > > > > "Not proven safe and effective" [FDA double talk] just means it hasn't > > > been tested, which ISN'T proof of being unsafe or ineffective. > > > > > > The FDA situation is such that they can't afford to prove ANYTHING and > > > have to rely on those that CAN afford to...which can have a few "problems" > > > now and then. > > > But then, yanking something from the shelves to cover their buttocks in > > > the face of a consumer scare, has happened many times. > > > > > > But never with EIS. > > > They are far more concerned with what's ON bottle, than what's in it. > > > > > > FOIA request has established that the FDA has no matching records > > > concerning "EIS" of any reported cases, yea OR nay. > > > > > > If it works, no harm done.....if it doesn't.....loop back to the medical > > > establishment. [and maybe the SAME harm done that would have happened > > > anyway, had you not tried. ] > > > > > > > > > > > > Ode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 04:52 PM 2/5/2010 -0800, you wrote: > > > >There has been a LOT of discussion about FDA approvals and what it takes > > > >to get them and how much it costs, etc. > > > > > > > >OK, so? How many people are there now who make their own EIS? > > > > > > > >How many people are there in addition who might want to use it if it were > > > >FDA approved? > > > > > > > >Hundreds? Thousands? More? > > > > > > > >Individually we do not have the resources of a large pharmaceutical > > > >company, but together, all thousands of us, maybe we could put together > > > >the wherewithall to do the research, conduct the tests, and perfect a > > > >product that could be FDA approved! > > > > > > > >Why not? > > > > > > > >Any interest out there, besides me? > > > > > > > >Dick > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > > > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > > > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > > > > > > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > > > > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > > > >