I have read from some CS site that when the ions are not there, only CS, (and at fairly small particle size....maybe 5 to 20 nm if I remember), then the result is quite opaque, not clear. I have no way to know the truth of this. They claimed it stayed in suspension indefinitely. I tried adding hydrogen peroxide and lemon juice and I got a grey brown mix definitely cloudier than before the additions. But after about 3 days it started to form grey sludge at the bottom. I have read that silver protein complex's are more bioactive. I have also read it is not good. But the ionic form complex's readily anyway? Still trying to wrap my brain around the basics.... The citrate is supposedly more stable in that it does not form silver chloride....and possibly the ionic portion is reduced....

thanks

mg

On 1/16/2012 6:25 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
I'd probly ignore that ion percentage figure one reads about unless you've had an analysis done determining that figure. From where I'm looking most go by what they read regarding that 80% figure, but I believe that figure could be different in reality. There may be far less ions than one may think if using LVDC setup, and that 'ion' content could be different dependant on an individuals unique machine setup and/or configuration and practices and methods for production.

In my mind ion/particle ratios could vary considerably from one producer to the next, dependant on the above?

Of course I'd be interested in seeing several lab results from several individuals who've had some LVDC home produced product tested? I'd be KEENLY interested in seeing those.

N.

> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:49:48 -0700
> From: mgperra...@aol.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>citrate
>
> If anyone would like to summarize about making silver citrate, I would
> appreciate it. ratios? Silver must be oxide first? This is possible
> with hydrogen peroxide? what about the 80% ions, what happens? Can be
> made simply be adding citrate to water when making a batch with typical
> low voltage method? chloride in lemon juice defeats the purpose of the
> citrate?
>
> Thank you
>
> mg
>
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