Unless this List is exclusive to 'experts?' the every day EIS producer does not
need to read more misinformation, there is plenty of that anywhere one wishes
to look.
This List has always been above that, but I guess some get their backs up when
some home truths are told...If the cap fits, wear it!
One *DOES NOT* need to store properly made EIS in dark storage
containers...Myth number 1!EIS properly produced *DOES NOT* degrade over
time...Myth number 2!Most home producers *DO NOT* use all that paraphernalia to
produce their EIS, so what's the point of steering people toward that guff.
Ulterior motive? <nudge nudge wink wink>.*ALL* products produced in the home
using LVDC are the same - predominantly ionic silver solutions.*ALL* products
produced in the home using LVDC will be at worst *EQUAL* to, and in most cases
BETTER than anything else available if attention and diligence is applied to
the production process and methodology.One should *NOT* have to scrape any scum
or crud off the top of the water after production, if they do, then something
is amiss and they'd better study up.The inference that meters are useless is
absolute and utter hogwash. They certainly don't come close to laboratory
analysis I concede, but are most certainly useful in indicating an
approximation of silver in the home produced product for the average punter to
enable or assist them to get repeatable values to aim for in their brewing
process.
Brewing 20 litres at a time may suit some, but most home producers on this
planet brew far less than that, and mainly for their own usage so there is no
need to rig up such an elaborate production facility.
I always considered this List to be open to all in learning worthwhile
information, if not, then I won't lose any sleep if I'm booted off, I won't be
the first and I dare say I won't be the last, but the last thing a newcomer to
this stuff, or anyone else for that matter, needs is more of the same
misinformation they can find anywhere else.
And if/when people don't answer it's cos I'm the only one that calls a spade a
spade, as opposed to a 'long wooden handled digging implement'. If I get flak
for that, then so be it!
Adios from the uneducated truth seeker.
N.
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:00:03 -0600
Subject: Re: CS>PPM vs uS
From: mnels...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
There should be a frequently asked question and answer file with the list.
Repeated dumb questions are annoying and don't get answered properly anyway.
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Neville Munn <one.red...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Now, now, keep it civil.
Problem? Where? But I think if you whistle, I'll point.
Lot of fancy talk and misleading info in that blog. I use far less
paraphernalia than that, as most on this planet do, and I store my product in
clear glass storage vessels, and mine doesn't degrade after months in storage.
I definitely don't need to scrape anything off the surface of the water??? The
only thing I'll concede is that I store mine in a cupboard, but apart from that
what you produce is no better to what I produce, and that of most everyone else
out there.
Failing a suitable response to my request for your laboratory analysis reports,
I rest my case.
N.
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 03:03:47 +0000
Subject: Re: CS>PPM vs uS
From: mothman...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Take your problem somewhere else
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Neville Munn <one.red...@hotmail.com> wrote:
8-12ppm would be acceptable for *anyone* wishing to produce 10ppm in the home
with LVDC using whatever meter they choose!
And I was asked for considerably more than 20ml when I had my lab tests done
using AAS.
No meter is "hopelessly inadequate" for the home producer, they are a guide to
repeatable production levels of silver relative to the individuals methods,
means and practices of production in the kitchen, regardless of how inaccurate
they may be. ANY meter is better than none for the home producer for the
purpose of approximating silver content in what an individual is making. Most
home producers have not the means for laboratory analysis so what do they do?
Stop making their own and purchase a product just because a ppm is written on
the label?
A uS or EC meter is the best the punter can do, or a TDS meter and doubling the
reading, how accurate does the punter need to be in the scheme of things home
produced?
In my opinion it's this sort of information that is potentially confusing and
misleading for the punter, and will have them thinking they *MAY?* not be
producing a good quality product in the home without a laboratory
analysis...which is total bunkum and balderdash! If there is nil mud or gravel
or other abnormalities observable in their product after days/weeks or months
in storage, it's as good as can be made, using a meter of their choosing as a
guide!
Could you put up laboratory analysis results of 5 consecutive dated batch
samples you had tested indicating total silver content for each, and brewed for
identical time frames?
I'm the voice of an uneducated punter, humour me.
N.
