My apologies Ken for the error. It was definitely your site that I got the
thermal stirring info from and I have been making good use of it. By the way,
with my set up I am able to make 40 ounces at a time and it turns out perfectly
clear. With the way I am making it the water temperature increases very little
also. I thank you for your words of wisdom. It has made the world of
difference in the product I am making. I just do not have the funds to buy a
more expensive machine and so I have to make do with what I have. I guess it
is true, necessity is the mother of invention.
God Bless and good health to you and yours
Linda Hefferman
Ode Coyote <coyote...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>The info would probably have come from www.silverpuppy.com vs
>www.silvergen.com as I use thermal stirring and Trem uses mechanical.
Hints:
Heat only the center bottom of the container as this creates a narrow
updraft right where you need it and lets the outside surfaces loose heat.
Don't exceed 110 deg F. It's not the temperature that does the job but
the difference between heat soak and head shed... or ...heat gain in the
center compared to heat loss at the outside surface. It takes very little
heat.
You can cut a 1" hole in a flattish can such as a beef stew or tuna can,
[or punch a pattern of holes near the center] turn it hole up on a coffee
maker hot plate as well as using a 7 watt nightlight bulb.
This does not limit the current. It distributes and hydrates the ions as
they are formed.
Hydration tends to isolate the ions from each other so they don't have as
great a tendency to agglomerate later.
Distribution removes high ion concentration zones near the electrodes so
the water doesn't reach its saturation point [ the concentration point at
which crystals start forming] in localized areas.
Any form of stirring greatly improves the performance of even the most
primitive generator.
The nice things about thermal stirring is that it's easy to do, can't
ever break or wear out and it never goes too fast. [Just keep an eye on the
heat gain and don't exceed 110 deg F so as to avoid Brownian collision
problems.]
If you stir too vigerously, other weird things start to happen. This,
among a few other reasons is why I abandonded mechanical stirring. It
worked well, IF, you had a clue as to how to use it. Some folks just don't
have many clues. [Trem may have designed the clues in so you don't have to
have one. I'm not sure, but he's a pretty good designer and works hard at
it. ]
Down side...thermal stirring has batch size limits with the little 7 watt
bulb as larger containers are generally taller. Works pretty good on a
quart but better [flawlessly?] on a pint and less. Heat gain is no
problem.
The coffee pot trick might be strong enough for a gallon.
ken
>If you do not have a potpourri pot in your home a heater is easily made by
>cutting a 1 inch hole in a can and placing it upside down on a night
>light. The bulb is usually 5 or 7 watts and is sufficient to keep your
>water in container moving. This is called thermal stirring and I think I
>gleaned this piece of info from Trem's site---not sure though.
>
>Hope this is of some help to you. By the way the thermal stirring
>controls the current or so I am told and that is why you do not get the
>sludge.
>
> Good health and good luck to you
>
> Linda J. Hefferman
>
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