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Re: CS> H2O2, ag(+), NaCl
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:36:45

  > Mike Monett wrote:

  >> Also, silver carbonate is tan or brown. I sometimes saw this with
  >> high current density, but most often the residue was  dark black.
  >> This is silver oxide.

  >> Best Regards,

  >> Mike Monett

  > According to my references silver carbonate is yellow. Perhaps you
  > were seeing  a mixture of silver caronate and  silver  oxide which
  > would likely give a brown or tan.

  Hi Marshall,

  Yes, I  have  one  reference that also  states  silver  carbonate is
  yellow and includes pictures. Others state it is tan or brown, so it
  may depend on the purity.

  I think the brown residue I saw once was contamination  from letting
  the rods  rest on the table. I got very ill for  several  days after
  drinking the  cs. I then made a simple holder from a plastic  cap to
  keep the  rods from touching anything while  transferring  liquid to
  and from  the  cs generator. The brown  spots  disappeared  and were
  replaced by black spots under the rods.

  I saw a brown spot once again after moving the rods to a  bigger cap
  to double  the  wetted  area. I discarded the  cs  and  made another
  batch.

  Then I  then  discovered  the benefits  of  running  at  low current
  density. This eliminates the production of silver oxide,  Ag2O, that
  formed the black spots and coated the inside of the glass.

  It also increases the maximum concentration of silver ions  that can
  be produced  before the solution starts turning yellow  or  black. I
  estimate the  maximum  ppm I obtained at 1.4  mA/sq.in.  was  on the
  order of 10 ppm.

  Recent runs indicate the cs made at 87uA/sq.in. reaches a calculated
  28 ppm  before it starts showing a pale yellow tint. I can  post the
  data and calculations if you like, but omit them here to save space.

  Adding 1 teaspoon of ordinary 3.5% H2O2 per litre turns the solution
  completely clear and increases the strength of the dispersion in the
  salt test.

  Because of  this,  I believe adding H2O2  to  a  solution containing
  silver oxide  particles  forms a  catalytic  reaction  that releases
  silver ions and oxygen:

  Ag2O + H2O2 --> Ag(+) + O2(g) + H2O2

  According to my references, 1 teaspoon is 5 ml.

  So this  is 5*.035 = 0.175ml H2O2, or 0.175 ppm H2O2.  It  is barely
  noticeable when tasting the cs. Probably half as much would have the
  same effect and be even less noticeable.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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