http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/flash_site.html Claim 2 and claim 4 confuse the definitions of 'particle' and 'ion' making it sound like particles are very small ion sized while not exactly saying 'particles' are not what are being measured. "Energia" ???? "only charged particles" [ions] Though technically speaking, ions ARE particles, there is a commonly held difference in definition between charged "ions" and metallic "particles" which appears to be intentionally blurred with misleading use of language by someone [a scientist] who should know the difference. Further, the line gets criss crossed with conflicting definitions of colloid without mentioning that a colloid is a suspension..saying in effect that this 'ionic solution' is a colloidal suspension when it isn't and saying that "hybrid" home made or other stuff is not a colloid when it ,at least partially ,is. Independent analysis shows sovereign silver to be the 'hybrid' it claims not to be. [Not that that's "bad"..it is a very good hybrid. There's nothing wrong with a hybrid.]
Then, using an electron microscope to prove it all.. If I have my info correct, a tunneling electron microscope cannot take pictures of a liquid, therefore, the liquid is dried, then sent to the microscope. But, when ionic silver is dried, it oxidizes, therefore, the pics are of silver oxides, not ions..'energia charged particles' or even metallic particles [because none of those are supposed to be in there]. Frankly, I believe this CS to be very much the same as what you 'can' make at home [highly ionic silver water] though maybe a bit better than what 'most' people make at home with a set of batteries. I've run across a few people in the free energy field that mix terms to confuse differences between horsepower, torque..watts and amps and volts and so on...saying things without saying them? Some would called them a fraud. Some would call them wealthy. [The two are not necessarily cross defined] A lawyer is schooled in the art of deception..er..gross exaggeration.. without actually lying. Teflon banannas Ode http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr03/cpr_03.htmlhttp://www.silver-co lloids.com/Reports/cpr03/cpr_03.html http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html At 01:06 PM 2/17/2004 -0600, you wrote: >IMHO you won't learn much from 2 oz. Bob S. > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "The Hatzfeld's" <ha...@airmail.net> >To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> >Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:00 AM >Subject: Re: CS>Newbie questions > > >> What I bought was Sovereign Silver - was 2 fl. oz. and cost $14.99. Found >> this product from the site www.silvermedicine.org - they said it was the >> best on the market, however it's too expensive to buy a large quantity of >> it. Until we've had a chance to use and experience results from CS it >> didn't make sense to invest in the equipment to manufacture. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Cindy >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ode Coyote" <coyote...@earthlink.net> >> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:07 AM >> Subject: Re: CS>Newbie questions >> >> >> > You're not likely to get a quality product from the HFS. >> > Most of it is MSP and some is chemical precipitate vs electrically >> > isolated silver. [ A rare find in an HFS but still not always as labeled >> > and still way over priced] >> > >> > Why MSP [mild silver protein] and chemical precipitate? Because it's >> > faster and cheaper to manufacture. Time is money. >> > Why pay 'them' when you can make your own for about a dollar a gallon >and >> > actually have an idea what it is?..and isn't. >> > >> > The only one I know of who possibly makes and sells something different >> > than what you would is our own Frank Key. >> > http://www.purestcolloids.com >> > >> > The prices are decent at around $3 per oz at 20 PPM vs the $7 per oz at >3 >> > to 10 PPM that the HFS charges for very questionable products. >> > >> > Even if you buy a ready made automatic generator for $100 to $200, >it'll >> > make around 50 to 80 gallons per set of electrodes. After a hundred >> > gallons, the price per gallon goes down to just over that of water while >> > the first 100 gallons would include the cost of the generator at around >$3 >> > per gallon or less. >> > >> > Even making your own simple generator with nothing more than batteries >> and >> > wire does better than the HFS. >> > >> > Ode >> > >> > At 11:43 AM 2/16/2004 -0600, you wrote: >> > >As a newcomer I'd love to know why CS costs so much? I went to the HFS >> > >yesterday and a large bottle was $70 or so. Are there any sources for >> > >quality products at decent prices? >> > > >> > >Thanks in advance, >> > > >> > >Cindy >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >-- >> > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> > > >> > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> > > >> > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> > >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> > > >> > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> > >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >> > > >> > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> > >> > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> > >> > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> > >> > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >> > >> > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >> > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. 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