That is fascinating. I will try to find some phosphorus supplement,
meantime, what about simply adding more high phos foods to the diet?
There don't seem to be a huge number of foods with high phosphorus and
low calcium, but oats are one. I'm going to check the nutrient database
for others.
And I'm going to take a look at my blood test results.
thanks!
sol
starshar wrote:
I earned my Certificate in Nutrition for the most part by
learning/studying the works of Melvin Page, DDS. (I think the Weston
Price site may have info on Page, also the Price Pottenger site).
Page taught that the ideal blood levels of CA and P (phosphorus) are
10 and 4.5. It is the ratio, however, that is the most important
factor, he said. CA should always be 2 and a half times the P.
For a long time, I'd check the routine blood work my doc ordered and
I'd make adjustments to my supplements based on this ratio.
About 10 yrs ago my blood work came back absent the P. I asked my doc
what happened and was told that the insurance companies decided to go
by the Medicare guidelines and Medicare had decided that P was
irrelevant! (stifling rant)
Now when I walk out of doc's office with lab slip in hand, I just
check off Phosphorus before I go to the lab. I did ask my doc if this
would be ok----just in case the PTB would throw me in jail or
something. <G>.
It was P that got me over a horrible fibromyalgia attack back in the
late 90s. I don't remember now if I had a current lab report when I
took the P. What I have discovered is that when my P gets low or out
of ratio to CA, my teeth will start staining. This could be just an
overly alkaline condition systemically, but P is an acid mineral and
it always works for me.
At that time my neck was so tight that I had pain from the trapezius
all the way up the side of my head, and I was immobilized---couldn't
drive or even sleep anywhere but a reclining chair. Then I noticed my
darkening teeth. P "cured" me of that bout in a few weeks.
It's not easy to find phosphorus. Any practitioner that carries
Standard Process products could provide their Phosfood. A websearch
for "orthophosphoric acid" should produce at least one source.
After reading what I just wrote, I realized that it sounds so "pat".
NOT. Metabolic balancing is a subject that continues to drive me crazy!
FWIW,
Sharon
From: "sol" <sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 3:42 PM
Body chemistry is further confused by the fact that the body has a
"set point" for blood levels of calcium, and if you don't get enough
or what you take in is not properly utilized the body will remove
calcium from the bones to maintain the blood levels. So I believe
that blood levels of calcium and other minerals are not a very good
indicator of what is really going on, or what the state of calcium in
the body really is. Blood levels are therefore not totally reliable,
but a poor tool is better than none, maybe.
I myelf have been going by The Metabolic Typing Diet, which gives
examples of different metabolic types needing different
supplementation or diets that sometimes contradicts the blood
results. There really is no "one size fits all" way to deal with
mineral imbalances, or even vitamin deficiencies according to that book.
sol
M. G. Devour wrote:
Sol wrote:
Without a proper calcium/phosphorus ratio, mammals can't properly use
calcium. The conventional wisdom seems to be that humans get plenty of
phosphorus and don't need to worry about it, but I wonder if that is
really true.
Right now my phosphorus levels are low, both absolutely and relative
to calcium. The problem I'm overcoming is apparently calcium
overload. I'm supplementing with bioavailable calcium and avoiding
all inorganic sources. As I'm slowly getting rid of the precipitated
calcium, the phosphorus levels are supposed to rise.
It's not easy to bring up phosphorus levels. It's supposed to take
months.
Body chemistry is not simple. <sigh>
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