Can a tech who operates a gas chromatograph qualify as an
expert in medicinal herbs because he or she can tell you how
the ppm of compound X in this or that herb sample that
crosses the lab  bench?

For example in markers and standardization of extracts.
Biochemical "markers" are required for pharmaceutical
extractions of single herbs and formulas. You absolutely do
not care what those compounds do pharmacologically or
physiologically.  They are "markers", not active
ingredients, by definition. You do a chemical assay and
project the three dimensional peaks onto your computer
screen.  You need three dimensional peaks to see if the
peaks are clean and without other internal peaks in the
topography.  You look for overall consistency in the
relative amplitudes of the peaks to assure yourself that
this current batch of extract has been carried out in the
same manner as all of the previous batches.  There is no
biological assay or clinical assay involved in any of this.
The company will simply identify what is the most
appropriate for them, in means of production. For example
hypericum (the marker associated with hypercium) in the herb
St John's Wort was "identified" as "the ingredient". The
commercial interests created value by percentage of those
markers. Concentrated and standardized to those markers,
people in Europe who were prescribed this phyto-drug by
allopathic medical doctors became sick and then tried to
ban the natural herb St John's Wort as dangerous. Same as Ma
Huang (ephedrine) and a host of other phyto-drugs.

My answer is do what you do. mix and tincture the herbs as
you outlined below. The overall effectiveness may vary
season to season. Maybe need a little bit more or a little
bit less, but the safety and effectiveness will be known,
this knowledge can be passed on, and we can learn from our
experience.

just my 2 cents
Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist
Santa Cruz, CA.



-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwfug...@fugitt.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 7:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Cayenne Tincture Methods


Morning Teri,

 >> At 08:13 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote:
>Since I have 20 Habenaro plants, 6 cayenne, and 1 Caribbean
red I have
>plenty to make a tincture. My question is do you leave the
seeds in when
>you grind in the blender???

    Yes, I used the seeds, core, and even the stem ends on
some.
Others where the stem and end looked a bit abnormal, these
were cut off.

The amazing thing about the hot peppers is the tissue thin
walls, when
compared with Bell and Banana peppers.  Strange indeed.

I would mix the peppers if I had the variety.

Without any scientific basis, I think there are some
ingredients in peppers
that are good, other than the heat and the part that burns.

Would like to see a chemical breakdown on peppers, if anyone
has any
information or links to this.

I have always been a bit skeptical on most herbs because I
feel they have
been inadequately studied.   Plus they are grown around the
world in many
soil types and a variety of conditions, drought, heavy
rainfall, low sun,
high sunlight, and you name it as to the growing conditions.
Heavy
rainfall will result in lower concentration of nutrients,
flavors, and
minerals.   Low water makes greater concentrations.   Poor
nutrients in the
soil has its effects also.

Where does this leave us?   Guessing as to quality.

Wayne



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