J.A.R. Like I stated at the beginning, *most* models are at least
theoretically valid.

1. VALID MODELS/IDEAS. I am not aware of ONE model that has one valid or even interesting idea about how to produce "general intelligence" - how to get an agent to independently learn, or solve problems in, a new domain - to cross domains.

Which ones & which ideas are you thinking of?

1a. I am only aware of ONE thinker/systembuilder who has even ADDRESSED the problem in any shape or form directly - & IMO poorly - Baum in a recent paper, in wh. he defines general intelligence practically as moving independently from one level of a computer game to another. But at least he made an attempt to address the problem. (The recent Swedish ACS robotic effort talks about the problem, but the robot only appears to tackle one task, rather than moving on from one to another).

Are you aware of any others?

2. FLEDGED INVENTORS/ INNOVATORS

Are there any people in this discussion/group who have any proven record of inventing or innovating - e.g. creating a marketed new kind of program? Clearly there are many with an extensive professional background, but that's different.

IMO while these groups are v. constructive, helpful & friendly, they strikingly lack a true CREATIVE culture. Witness the number of people who insist that no great/revolutionary, creative ideas are needed for AGI. (In fact, I can't think of any AGI leader who doesn't take this position). You guys want to be Frankenstein's - to create life - one of the greatest creative challenges of all time - a task that IMO requires at least a few Da Vinci's/Turing's & an army of Michelangelo's/Edison's, - but according to you guys doesn't even require one big idea! (Does Steve Grand BTW take this position?)

That truly makes me weep & want to start pounding my head on the table.

But it might explain why would-be investors aren't excited?

I would strongly urge people to associate more with - and/or seek the opinions here of - fledged creatives like Hawkins.

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