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[mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Tony Graziano
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:28 AM
To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] sipXecs and VoIP from TW Telecom

except scs is not certified yet either.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Todd Hodgen <thod...@frontier.com> wrote:
> SO, with TW, nothing would keep you from saying it was an SCS 4.0 install.
> It’s not like they are going to ask to look under the hood, they just 
> want to understand the provisioning requirements on their end, and 
> that documentation is in your hands for connecting it up.
>
>
>
> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Matthew 
> Kitchin
> (public/usenet)
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:51 AM
>
> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] sipXecs and VoIP from TW Telecom
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> I just spoke with a VoIP sales rep from TW telecom. They do offer SIP 
> trunks, but they are currently only certified to work with Cisco Call 
> Manager (I'm not really familiar with the Cisco line, I think that is 
> the name he used). This guy didn't seem like a true hands on tech guy. 
> He said they had 18 other products they were in the process of 
> certifying. The list included Nortel SCS 3.0 and Nortel SCS 4.0. No 
> sipXecs. I tried to explain the lineage of the various products and 
> that Nortel SCS didn't even exist anymore as it was now owned by 
> Avaya. I asked him for contact information as to who someone from 
> sipXecs could contact to try and explain a little better and possible 
> get it put on their list under the sipXecs name. I'll follow up if I get
that info.
>
> On 9/6/2011 8:30 AM, Scott Richesson wrote:
>
> FYI:
>
>
>
> I’ve had both TW Telecom and TW Cable out here soliciting me.  Despite 
> the similar name, they are two completely separate companies.  TW 
> Telecom is pretty much business only.  TW Cable is a residential-grade 
> company that also has a foot in the door of business services.
>
>
>
> Scott Richesson
>
> Cincinnati Fan
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>
>
> From: Philippe Laurent [mailto:p...@ideos.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 9:25 AM
> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] sipXecs and VoIP from TW Telecom
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>
> TWBC business phone service and sip = bad idea.
>
>
>
> What they provide, at least in our neck of the woods, is proprietary 
> voip that is then converted to analog signaling at the client end, 
> requiring me to use a analog to sip converter inside to get it working 
> with sipx. We had nothing but a year of issues, with the biggest 
> problem being calls that would randomly terminate.
>
>
>
> A switch to voip.ms brought satisfaction to my customer, and I've 
> since learned my lesson.
>
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Max DiOrio <m...@universityent.com> wrote:
>
> I know with Asterisk, Time Warner Business Class Phones were HORRIBLE.  
> Very bad echo!  I spent months with dozens of people in their support 
> department and they kept saying it isn’t them.  Another local VoIP 
> installer said that they have nothing but trouble with TW.  They ONLY 
> hand off their lines as analog, forcing you to get an analog gateway.  
> They will not provide a PRI or SIP, although they did say that SIP 
> trunking is something they are looking into down the road.
>
>
>
> Stay away from Time Warner at all costs with VOIP equipment.
>
>
>
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> From: sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org
> [mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Tony 
> Graziano
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 2:49 PM
> To: Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> Subject: [sipx-users] sipXecs and VoIP from TW Telecom
>
>
>
> The advantage I see with voip.Ms is that they have automated failover 
> per number. At the same time you would need to address firewall needs 
> for each site versus the cost for a pri gateway(s). Voip.Ms has a how 
> to for sipx on their wiki now.
> On Monday, September 5, 2011, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) 
> <mkitchin.pub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If I went with a separate ITSP, is voip.ms everyone's favorite 
>> provider these days? It would be two 50+ handset locations and many 6 
>> to 10 handset locations.
>>
>> On 9/5/2011 6:01 AM, Michael Picher wrote:
>>
>> The data portion of their solution is typically either a Hybrid 
>> Fiber/Coax solution (like most of your cable modems at home) or a 
>> Dedicated Fiber solution with some Cisco gear at the customer prem 
>> (supports higher bandwidth & more services).
>> Their voice solutions are either analog or PRI type hand-offs from 
>> gateways.  As of my latest understanding they won't hand you a SIP 
>> connection.  Most of their sales folks may not even know what SIP is 
>> even though that is what is handling the connection to the box they put
on site.
>>  All they really know it as is VoIP.  So, this typically requires 
>> that you put in gateways to connect to their gateways...  Too bad 
>> because of course it is a waste of money and a waste of call fidelity.
>> Also sometimes their signal coming off their gateways can be a little 
>> 'hot' and may cause a little echo.  It will take a bit to find an 
>> engineer who understands what you are trying to tell them but they 
>> may eventually fix it.  Most of their field techs are cable runners / box
swappers.
>> I wouldn't consider them a Tier 1 or 2 provider for business voice.  
>> More like a Tier 3.  They are OK & relatively inexpensive for the 
>> small business space.
>> From a data perspective they seem to be pretty good and certainly 
>> higher speed and much less expensive than throwing in T3's and such.
>> Mike
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Matthew Kitchin (usenet/public) 
>> <mkitchin.pub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any experience with sipXecs and commercial VoIP 
>>> services from Time Warner telecom?
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