You shouldn't invite violence. I have been known to clobber people with
iPads.

I think the wiki could be clearer, but really I think you are the only one
to make the leap from Bria is bria is bria is bria. It ain't, but
sipfoundry doesn't manuafcture it either. Bria has undergone numerous name
changes in the last 3 or four years. I look for the names to change "yet
again", because why leave something the same?

Give people more information than they need? That's been done, numerous
times. When they can't follow directions the first few times, you have to
beat them over the head with an iPad and chant "DNS DNS DNS".

Understand then fix your DNS and stop ranting to the masses who already get
that.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Stiles Watson <wat...@datatek-net.com>wrote:

>  I'm not sure what there is to 'get'. I thought the point of the wiki was
> to explain how to set things up. I was directed to the Bria page on the
> wiki when asked about Bria and iphone (the page even mentions iphone...).
> However, the info there has nothing to do with Bria on iphone. I was
> offering to provide clarification for others so they are not confused when
> they look at the wiki page and then look at the iphone settings and see
> little or no overlap.
>
> You guys on the sipX team have done a great job and have produced and
> continue to produce a great open source product, but more times than not
> you guys take a programmers view of things instead of a users view. This is
> what make the difference between products that go on to be great and widely
> embraced  and products which are great functionally, but are never embraced
> by the masses (or products which people are forced to use, but hate using).
> Why do you think Apple has boat loads of cash on hand in a down economy
> even though they do not own the lion share of either the desktop or server
> market? It is because they focus on the user and make it easy for them to
> get done what they need to get done. The iphone revolutionized the smart
> phone market. Why? They did not have any new wiz-bang feratures (they
> actually had less), but they focused on the user and made it easier to use.
> Everyone else has been playing catch up (yes, you can argue that certain
> Andriod devices are better, but they followed iphone).
>
> Explain everything, teach people, give people more info then they need....
>
> I've seen so many technically good products go down the toilet because the
> programmers could never see things from a users perspective. They turned
> their noses up at them instead. And in return? The users went somewhere
> else and the project died.
>
> Just my ten cents. The rant is over and everyone can beat me up now.
>
> Stiles
>
>
> On 04/18/2012 04:31 PM, Tony Graziano wrote:
>
> I don't get you. Counterpath has a product for the desktop that can be
> centrally provisioned. Their mobile devices can't (yet).
>
> Maybe we can create a stiles.wiki. JK.
>
> I think the wiki might benefit from a mobile apps section, but it requires
> proper layout for and could use a simple table layout for how to configure
> for most products and OS's.
>
> The key here is testing functionalities and features, etc.
> On Apr 18, 2012 4:07 PM, "Stiles Watson" <wat...@datatek-net.com> wrote:
>
>>  So can the wiki be updated to reflect the differences in Bria for
>> iphone/ipod touch?
>>
>>    - Use SIP password not PIN
>>    - No Provisioning server
>>    - Under "Account advanced", you need to enter Out. Proxy and Auth Name
>>
>> I do not know what the approval process is, but if I can get a login, I'd
>> be happy to do it. Could also enter settings for Media5-fone.
>>
>> Stiles
>>
>> On 04/18/2012 03:50 PM, Stiles Watson wrote:
>>
>> Not sure what the deal was, but I sent the profile AGIAN, set the
>> password to the SIP password, not PIN and it registered.
>>
>> Stiles
>>
>> On 04/18/2012 03:22 PM, Stiles Watson wrote:
>>
>> I am unable to register via Bria for ipod touch. I'm connected via wifi
>> on the office network. I get Unauthorized (401).
>>
>> Here are my settings:
>>
>> Account Name: 295
>> Enabled: ON
>>
>> Username: 295
>> Password: (I've tried both PIN and SIP)
>> Domain: datatek-net.com
>>
>> Under "Account Advanced"
>>
>> Out. Proxy: sipx.datatek-net.com
>> Auth Name: 295
>>
>> There are no other settings to enter and there is no place to enter a
>> Provisioning Server as mentioned on the wiki page:
>>
>> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Counterpath+Bria+Softphone
>>
>> As I mentioned in an earlier email. I was able to get Media5Fone working
>> on an iphone with the same settings above.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Stiles
>>
>> Stiles
>>
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