Yea, some day I might get to that...

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Tony Graziano <tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net
> wrote:

> Then you are the perfect wiki maintainer for the mobile section.
>
> HA!
> On Apr 18, 2012 6:30 PM, "Michael Picher" <mpic...@ezuce.com> wrote:
>
>> i've got like one of everything now tony :-)
>>
>> bria for ipad kicks bria for android tablet beta's rear-end all over the
>> place.  That being said, bria on the PC is better than bria on the mac (no
>> RLS support on the mac version).
>>
>> Bria for android phone is just getting bluetooth support now (beta)...  i
>> don't know about bria for iphone but i belive it is a little further along
>> than bria for android phone.
>>
>> mike
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Tony Graziano <
>> tgrazi...@myitdepartment.net> wrote:
>>
>>> You shouldn't invite violence. I have been known to clobber people with
>>> iPads.
>>>
>>> I think the wiki could be clearer, but really I think you are the only
>>> one to make the leap from Bria is bria is bria is bria. It ain't, but
>>> sipfoundry doesn't manuafcture it either. Bria has undergone numerous name
>>> changes in the last 3 or four years. I look for the names to change "yet
>>> again", because why leave something the same?
>>>
>>> Give people more information than they need? That's been done, numerous
>>> times. When they can't follow directions the first few times, you have to
>>> beat them over the head with an iPad and chant "DNS DNS DNS".
>>>
>>> Understand then fix your DNS and stop ranting to the masses who already
>>> get that.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Stiles Watson 
>>> <wat...@datatek-net.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I'm not sure what there is to 'get'. I thought the point of the wiki
>>>> was to explain how to set things up. I was directed to the Bria page on the
>>>> wiki when asked about Bria and iphone (the page even mentions iphone...).
>>>> However, the info there has nothing to do with Bria on iphone. I was
>>>> offering to provide clarification for others so they are not confused when
>>>> they look at the wiki page and then look at the iphone settings and see
>>>> little or no overlap.
>>>>
>>>> You guys on the sipX team have done a great job and have produced and
>>>> continue to produce a great open source product, but more times than not
>>>> you guys take a programmers view of things instead of a users view. This is
>>>> what make the difference between products that go on to be great and widely
>>>> embraced  and products which are great functionally, but are never embraced
>>>> by the masses (or products which people are forced to use, but hate using).
>>>> Why do you think Apple has boat loads of cash on hand in a down economy
>>>> even though they do not own the lion share of either the desktop or server
>>>> market? It is because they focus on the user and make it easy for them to
>>>> get done what they need to get done. The iphone revolutionized the smart
>>>> phone market. Why? They did not have any new wiz-bang feratures (they
>>>> actually had less), but they focused on the user and made it easier to use.
>>>> Everyone else has been playing catch up (yes, you can argue that certain
>>>> Andriod devices are better, but they followed iphone).
>>>>
>>>> Explain everything, teach people, give people more info then they
>>>> need....
>>>>
>>>> I've seen so many technically good products go down the toilet because
>>>> the programmers could never see things from a users perspective. They
>>>> turned their noses up at them instead. And in return? The users went
>>>> somewhere else and the project died.
>>>>
>>>> Just my ten cents. The rant is over and everyone can beat me up now.
>>>>
>>>> Stiles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/18/2012 04:31 PM, Tony Graziano wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't get you. Counterpath has a product for the desktop that can be
>>>> centrally provisioned. Their mobile devices can't (yet).
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we can create a stiles.wiki. JK.
>>>>
>>>> I think the wiki might benefit from a mobile apps section, but it
>>>> requires proper layout for and could use a simple table layout for how to
>>>> configure for most products and OS's.
>>>>
>>>> The key here is testing functionalities and features, etc.
>>>> On Apr 18, 2012 4:07 PM, "Stiles Watson" <wat...@datatek-net.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  So can the wiki be updated to reflect the differences in Bria for
>>>>> iphone/ipod touch?
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Use SIP password not PIN
>>>>>    - No Provisioning server
>>>>>    - Under "Account advanced", you need to enter Out. Proxy and Auth
>>>>>    Name
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not know what the approval process is, but if I can get a login,
>>>>> I'd be happy to do it. Could also enter settings for Media5-fone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stiles
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/18/2012 03:50 PM, Stiles Watson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what the deal was, but I sent the profile AGIAN, set the
>>>>> password to the SIP password, not PIN and it registered.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stiles
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/18/2012 03:22 PM, Stiles Watson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am unable to register via Bria for ipod touch. I'm connected via
>>>>> wifi on the office network. I get Unauthorized (401).
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are my settings:
>>>>>
>>>>> Account Name: 295
>>>>> Enabled: ON
>>>>>
>>>>> Username: 295
>>>>> Password: (I've tried both PIN and SIP)
>>>>> Domain: datatek-net.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Under "Account Advanced"
>>>>>
>>>>> Out. Proxy: sipx.datatek-net.com
>>>>> Auth Name: 295
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no other settings to enter and there is no place to enter a
>>>>> Provisioning Server as mentioned on the wiki page:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/sipXecs/Counterpath+Bria+Softphone
>>>>>
>>>>> As I mentioned in an earlier email. I was able to get Media5Fone
>>>>> working on an iphone with the same settings above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Stiles
>>>>>
>>>>> Stiles
>>>>>
>>>>>
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