Hang on, how about trying the invisible cursor. This is a rarely used cursor found with JAWS, and is another form of screen review, but this time the mouse doesn't even move, hence "invisible". So try that and let us know.
-- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopherh40 at googlemail.com MSN: ch9675 at hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 4.1 Gold for Windows > That solution, RouteJAWSToPC to find menu options, seems to work for > some, but not for everyone. On my machine, which is an XP Pro laptop, > if I land the JAWS cursor on the Change Status submenu, the menu > opens, instantly closes itself, and causes a switch back to the PC > cursor. Even after turning the JAWS cursor back on after that, I can > only get to Change Status and Open Skype, but not Quit. I think this > varies depending on screen resolution, and maybe other factors. > > But the upshot is, there is no 100% reliable workaround for everyone. > It sounds like people like the Alt+Shift+F4 idea anyway, so it may > stick around past this first Skype 4.1 release. > > On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 03:53:39PM +0200, Clare Page wrote: >> Hi! >> Thanks, Doug, for adding an extra keystroke to the scripts you are >> preparing for Skype 4.1 Gold >> I have just downloaded this new version of Skype myself, and I have had >> the same problem as others when it comes to quitting Skype through the >> system tray. But I have got round this problem in the following way so >> far: I press "enter" on Skype in the system tray as I used to do, then I >> change to the JAWS cursor and use that to find "quit", then I route PC to >> JAWS and Skype closes down. The alt+shift+f4 keystroke will be far less >> fiddly, though. The scripts for Skype 4.1 Beta seem to work well with 4.1 >> Gold, judging from the little bit of time I've been using 4.1 Gold, but >> any improvements in the new scripts, including the new alt+shift+f4 >> keystroke, will be welcome, to me at least. I use JAWS 6.20 by the way. >> Bye for now, and happy Skyping to you all, whatever version you use! >>> From Clare >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org> >> To: "babydoll" <yvonnebabydoll at googlemail.com>; "screen access software >> with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 4.1 Gold for Windows >> >> >>> >>> I also see what Ray is talking about. I think this is a very >>> temporary problem, but unfortunately, the problem happens to exist in >>> the version that was released today, version 4.1.0.136. >>> >>> Because of this, I am planning to include a feature in the scripts, at >>> least for now, that makes Alt+Shift+F4 unload Skype completely. >>> Alt+F4 minimizes it to the system tray, so I use Alt+Shift+F4 to avoid >>> conflicting with that. You will have to press it twice though, just >>> so people don't do this accidentally. If you do press it twice in >>> quick succession though, it will not warn you, it will not hesitate, >>> it will not pass go, and it will not collect its due; it will just >>> knock Skype clean off the map. :) I think the systray button will ask >>> if you want to end calls, but I don't get that option from a script. >>> >>> Alt+Shift+F4 is not available yet, but it should be, as soon as I get >>> new scripts out. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:03:48AM +0100, babydoll wrote: >>>> hi on mine it is a sub menu >>>> i hit f 11 arrow down to skype hit enter then tab past where it says >>>> dont show me this again then hit enter and skype is unloaded >>>> Yvonne >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gianluca Apollaro" >>>> <gianluca88 at gsmboy.it> >>>> To: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>; "screen access software with >>>> skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:53 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 4.1 Gold for Windows >>>> >>>> >>>> I have the same problem with the system tray. When I press Insert+F11 >>>> and go >>>> to skype, I press enter but it doesn't work anymore. Any idea? >>>> Thank you all. >>>> Best regards >>>> Gianluca from Italy >>>> >>>> Skype: gianluca8815 >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret jr" >>>> <rforetjr at comcast.net> >>>> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:12 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 4.1 Gold for Windows >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thing is, when I start Skype, I cannot shut it down from the system >>>>> tray >>>>> like I used to be able to do. Call burner won't pick up the Skype >>>>> end of >>>>> the call either. >>>> >>>>> Any suggestions about the system tray thingie? >>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray >>>> >>>>> "Old friend, what are you looking for? After those many years >>>>> abroad you >>>>> come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your own >>>>> land" >>>>> George Seferis >>>> >>>>> Phone or Fax:: >>>>> +1 (985) 360-3614 >>>>> Cell: >>>>> +1 (985) 791-2938 >>>>> e-mail: >>>>> rforetjratcomcastdotnet >>>>> Skype Name: >>>>> barefootedray >>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah Alawami" >>>>> <marrie12 at gmail.com> >>>>> To: "'screen access software with skype'" <skypeenglish at emissives.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:12 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 4.1 Gold for Windows >>>> >>>>> Sounds interesting. I might wait until this is a final release though. >>>>> Keep >>>>> us posted. >>>> >>>> S >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com >>>>> [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Jean Philippe >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:34 PM >>>>> To: screen access software with skype >>>>> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 4.1 Gold for Windows >>>> >>>>> Hey! Good news. Thanks Jim. >>>>> I'll try it with the currant scripts. >>>>> JP >>>>> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Jim Grimsby JR. >>>>> To: 'screen access software with skype' >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:50 PM >>>>> Subject: [Skypeenglish] FW: Skype 4.1 Gold for Windows >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jim Grimsby Junior Jim Grimsby Junior. >>>>> >>>>> Please feel free to contact me at anytime using one of the below >>>>> methods. >>>>> >>>>> Skype: Jim.Grimsby 909-498-4711. >>>>> >>>>> E-mail: JGrimsby at roadrunner.com >>>>> >>>>> Windows live messenger: Jim.Grimsby at ATT.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Feed: Skype Garage >>>>> Posted on: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:41 AM >>>>> Author: Raul >>>>> Subject: Skype 4.1 Gold for Windows >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We're pleased to announce the new Skype 4.1 for Windows production >>>>> version. >>>>> >>>>> This new version of Skype brings you screen sharing, accessibility, >>>>> and >>>>> birthday reminders together with the ability to send contacts. It also >>>>> highlights Skype names on web pages for you, allowing you to click the >>>>> name >>>>> and start a call. In addition to these new features a number of >>>>> improvements >>>>> have been made which you can read about on my 4.1 beta announcement >>>>> <http://share.skype.com/sites/garage/2009/05/skype_41_beta_for_windows.html> >>>>> , or on our main blog post >>>>> <http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2009/05/skype_4_1_beta_for_windows.html> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> Start downloading it right now <http://www.skype.com/go/getskype> . >>>>> >>>>> We would like to thank everyone who took the time to feed back their >>>>> thoughts and issues when using Skype 4.1 Beta for windows. Many of >>>>> these >>>>> issues have now been fixed in the gold version. >>>>> >>>>> We're always happy to hear your feedback, so please let us know if >>>>> anything doesn't seem to be working as it should. This is easily done >>>>> through discussing matters on Skype forums >>>>> <http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showforum=2> or by leaving >>>>> comments on >>>>> this blog. >>>>> If you are a technical user then please take a few minutes to report >>>>> issues on our public issues tracker >>>>> <https://developer.skype.com/jira/> . >>>>> >>>>> With the gold release of Skype 4.1 for Windows we have fixed lots of >>>>> issues, especially ones relating to webcam detection, quoting links >>>>> in an >>>>> instant message and invisible cursor after switching windows when >>>>> using >>>>> Skype in compact view. >>>>> >>>>> The main changes from 4.1 Beta for Windows to the gold version, >>>>> 4.1.0.136, >>>>> by category are: >>>>> >>>>> Calling >>>>> >>>>> * Call status was sometimes displayed as "Ringing" after the call >>>>> had >>>>> started. >>>>> * Error message sometimes appeared when selecting the "Learn >>>>> about Call >>>>> Quality" link from the Call toolbar. >>>>> * Users were unable to call a contact again after rejecting the same >>>>> contact from a previous conference call. >>>>> * No sound was heard when connecting a second USB device, even when >>>>> it >>>>> was selected as the default option. >>>>> * Skype automatically adjusted user's microphone levels during a >>>>> call >>>>> even when they had disabled this option. >>>>> * Skype did not warn users when they tried to answer a call >>>>> without any >>>>> active audio devices being available. >>>>> * Auto-answer of incoming calls failed after multiple calls in quick >>>>> succession >>>>> * Dialpad is now visible when starting a call rather than when a >>>>> call is >>>>> connected. >>>>> >>>>> Instant messaging >>>>> >>>>> * Users were not notified when a file had been sent in a group IM >>>>> conversation. >>>>> * When copying and pasting a web address (URL) links within the same >>>>> instant messages, the URL appears as a blank line. >>>>> * When copying a large amount of text, (approximately 20 lines) >>>>> from the >>>>> same IM, and pasting it to the text input field, users no longer had >>>>> the >>>>> ability to scroll or edit that particular text >>>>> * Users were unable to copy and paste from an SMS message. >>>>> * The copy/paste menu did not appear when right clicking in the >>>>> IM input >>>>> field area >>>>> * Dragging and dropping quoted text to the chat text box caused >>>>> Skype to >>>>> crash for some users. >>>>> * No message displayed when two users were calling at the same time, >>>>> only >>>>> the end call button was displayed. >>>>> >>>>> Contacts >>>>> >>>>> * Users were not re-displayed in the contact list after they had >>>>> been >>>>> unblocked. >>>>> * After renaming a contact, the name would revert back to its >>>>> original >>>>> name following a restart. >>>>> * Some users were unable to drag and drop a contact to a group >>>>> conversation. >>>>> * It was not always clear that MySpace contacts had been found >>>>> during >>>>> contact search. >>>>> * Quick filter results were displayed incorrectly after previously >>>>> selecting two contacts at the same time. >>>>> * Echo 123 was sometimes not available for newly created accounts. >>>>> * Blocking users was ineffective in some cases. >>>>> * No tooltips were visible for participants in a group conversation. >>>>> * Unable to edit a SkypeOut contact's phone number more than once. >>>>> * Contact categories were ordered differently from the contact list. >>>>> >>>>> History >>>>> >>>>> * Links to previous IM's within an existing chat (Yesterday, Last 7 >>>>> days, >>>>> etc) did not show in some scenarios >>>>> * SMS >>>>> * When an SMS was sent to a SkypeOut contact whose profile contained >>>>> multiple phone numbers, the SMS would always go to the first number >>>>> even if >>>>> the user had selected an alternate phone number tab. >>>>> * Formatting of "quoted text" was displayed incorrectly. >>>>> * Users were unable to copy / paste from SMS messages. >>>>> >>>>> Audio/Video >>>>> >>>>> * Skype detected a Creative Live webcam even though the device was >>>>> not >>>>> connected. >>>>> * A "New Audio Device" Communicator message appeared on every start >>>>> up >>>>> for some users >>>>> * Nothing happened when clicking the "remove" button to delete >>>>> multiple >>>>> devices from Audio Settings drop down menu. >>>>> * Only one USB device was visible in the drop down menu when more >>>>> than >>>>> one was available. >>>>> * When receiving video calls from a Skype for Mac user, the >>>>> Windows user >>>>> saw an "On Hold" graphic when the incoming video was stopped. >>>>> * Some users were unable to undock from a docking station when a >>>>> webcam >>>>> was in use. >>>>> * The "Video Call" option was incorrectly made available when >>>>> users made >>>>> a SkypeOut call. >>>>> * Video was still displayed when user turned off video while a >>>>> call was >>>>> on hold. >>>>> * Video snapshot images appeared black when saved. >>>>> * Fixes for a small number of webcams that were not detected. >>>>> * Video did not start, if Skype was running on a secondary screen. >>>>> * When two identical USB audio devices were plugged in, only one >>>>> device >>>>> is displayed in the list in Tools > Options > Audio Settings > >>>>> Advanced. >>>>> * Compact / Default view switching >>>>> * When switching from Compact View to Default View the display >>>>> position >>>>> was incorrect. >>>>> >>>>> Accessibility >>>>> >>>>> * Voicemail and File Transfer are now accessible via keyboard >>>>> navigation. >>>>> >>>>> Miscellaneous >>>>> >>>>> * Fix for "Disk I/O error". If user still experiences this ensure >>>>> that >>>>> the appdata/skype/username directory is not read-only, if this does >>>>> not >>>>> resolve the issue please contact Customer Support. >>>>> * Emoticons were still displayed even when this option was disabled. >>>>> * Skype crashed on Windows Server 2008 R2. >>>>> * Error message: "Unterminated entry" sometimes displayed when >>>>> starting >>>>> Skype. >>>>> * Users on the "LITE" version of Skype will be displayed as >>>>> "Unknown" in >>>>> Conference calls. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> View >>>>> <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/SkypeGarage/~3/iZj1qXgge1g/skype_41_gold_for >>>>> _windows.html> article... >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts >>>>> for the >>>>> latest version of skype go to >>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>> the >>>>> latest version of skype go to >>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>> the >>>>> latest version of skype go to >>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ Informazione NOD32 4201 (20090630) __________ >>>>> >>>>> Questo messaggio ? stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 >>>>> http://www.nod32.it >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>> the >>>> latest version of skype go to >>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >>> -- >>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >>> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>> "It's not easy to be crafty and winsome at the same time, and few >>> accomplish >>> it after the age of six." --John W. Gardner and Francesca Gardner Reese >>> >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>> the latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >> >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > -- > Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org > SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com > http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > "I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor > and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither > leisure nor science from the height of society." > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > Skypeenglish at emissives.com > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
