At this point i would like to mention turbolinux.
If your a redhat fan and are sick of the amount of rubbish
you get, and youd also like to have more provided binary
packages that are better-than-rh integrated, then turbo
could be for you.
Go get the iso now. There is a workstation and a server,
as you know you dont want say squid on a workstation, and
you wouldnt want say gnumeric on a server.
try now, is good. is redhat like with lots more control
on the install process with heaps of console config tools
for people who are lazy/dont know
Dean
Del wrote:
>
> OK, and I have a number of equivalent arguments as to why Debian sucks.
> For example: * Why don't they build packages from pristine sources. *
> What the fxxk is the name of the program I use to install packages again,
> is it dselect, apt-get, or dpkg? * Why does dselect tell me it's going
> to apply a bunch of security fixes to my debian system by _uninstalling_
> a whole pile of stuff that I added with apt-get (such as apache, for
> example). * Why on earth do they still insist on running named as root?
>
> Other more useful commercial arguments include that most of the commercial
> Linux software (Oracle, Firewall-1, VMware, etc, etc) is targeted at
> RedHat and not Debian. It just makes sense for my clients' sake that I
> continue to use Red Hat.
>
> On a more personal note as a software developer, one of my packages is
> still floating around the net as a .deb file with _someone else's copyright
> notice_ attached to it. OK, so who gave the Debian developers permission
> to change the copyright message on other people's software? Are they
> packaging Oracle 8i in a .deb file with a GPL copyright message on it
> too? I'd like to see that one fly.
>
> I could go on.
>
> I won't. I've had enough of the arguments either side. I'm used to
> Red Hat, I tried it, I liked it, I tried Debian and I didn't like that
> much. Other people's mileage may vary.
>
> The fact of the matter is, *this is a Linux mailing list*. It's not
> an *I hate RedHat* mailing list or an *I hate Debian* mailing list.
> Personally, I don't give a rat's arse what version of Linux other
> people use, as long as it weans them off Microsoft, and one day I
> may very well find a customer site where I really need to use Debian
> instead of RedHat so I will. I still have one site running a really
> old version of slackware because it's small, fast, light, and nobody
> can remember what the bugs are any more.
>
> I'm getting rather tired of the *I hate RH* vs *I hate Debian* flame
> wars on this list and I just wish they'd all stop. If you want to
> flame something then go find an advocacy list or a net.news group with
> a bunch of people who care, 'cos I sure as hell don't.
>
> Simon, sure, a "How to use Debian for RedHat users" might be somewhat
> constructive, especially for people like me who use RH 90% of the time
> and have to play with the occasional Debian system, but a page that
> has the title "Why RedHat sucks" is neither constructive nor useful,
> except for Microsoft employees. I bet Bill Gates has your web site
> plastered to the wall of his dunny, with a picture of Larry Ellison
> in a chicken suit next to it for added jerk off value.
>
> I strongly suggest, in the interest of the entire world wide Linux
> community, that you take it down and replace it with something a
> little more user friendly.
>
> Del
>
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