What siemens router were you using exactly?? Thanks for the warning by the way!
Sully -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question Be careful my Siemens router offers the same thing and I thought WOO HOO too I set up just 6 IPS as a test and it worked but there was a drawback. It kept crashing the router and it would reboot on its own every 10 min or so. I am not sure if it is because it was to much processing for the router to handle or what it was so just be careful and test it first before putting every down on it and watch it for a few hours so your not out at a baseball game and all hell breaks loose hehehe ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:11 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question I just dug into my VERY technical TECH MANUAL for my T-1 router..and found out that it does bandwidth limiting!! Woohoo!! After all this time, I had no idea. It wasn't designed to be used as I am going to use it.but it will work. The purpose of the QoS queues were to make available a predetermined percentage of the bandwidth for certain applications (i.e video teleconferencing). But.it is broken up into groups where you can assign the incoming and outbound bandwidth percentages. Then just add my STATIC client IPs to the appropriate group. Currently, I have 2 plans 1. $39.95 for 1 PC, 1 Gig throughput per month, and up to 1.5 Meg both ways (no real way of limiting the number of PCs) 2. $69.95 for many PC's, 2 Gig throughput per month, and up to 1.5 Meg both ways Now I would like to implement the following: 1. $39.95 for many PC's, 1 Gig throughput per month, and up to 256k both ways. 2. $69.95 for many PC's, 2 Gig throughput per month, and up to 1.4 Meg both ways. This new plan solves 2 problems 1. It is pretty much impossible for me to know how many computers someone has installed on their internal network. Might as well open it up. At the same time, it will hopefully push clients to purchase the $69.95 plan for the higher speeds and monthly throughput. 2. Using the bandwidth queues, will make it impossible for my clients to take my whole T-1 leaving me unable to manage the network. New problems created: 1. How do I convince my clients to accept my NEW policy? I don't have contracts at all.so technically I can just make a policy change. However, I would rather them welcome it. 2. Would you provide a preconfigured router to all clients?? By preconfigured, I mean statically assigned my network IP, setup for internal DHCP for the client, and such?? Might make installs a bit quicker and solves the IP problem that I currently have---this way I only have to use 1 IP per client?? If I do this, I have to find a VERY cheap source for routers with decent functionality. May even set them up for PPPoE.hmmm??? Any ideas?? Sully -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Chance Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:50 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question Ok you convinced me im gonna download and install mikrotik tonight, but damn it I lost the key I had so now I got to buy another one it seems ARGG. Chris -----Original Message----- From: The Wirefree Network [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will most definitely get with you as soon as I make a decision to go with this. Still working on it...hmmmm....sooooo much to do...so little time. Sully -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question I am working on seting up my Mikrotik router still. Got the NAT and such done, but hav'ent got my PPPoE to work as of yet. But, still working on it. Maybe we can help each other if you get to it. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:52 AM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question > Jeremy, > Sorry about my previous question I just sent....seems you already > answered it here. > > It sounds like you and I have our networks set up exactly the same. > > I too want to move to the MikroTik as well. I have been holding off for > 2 reasons. > > 1. I don't have the time to learn it/install it (plus my linux skills > are less than okay). > > 2. I was hoping to use the new sB product for doing this. > > What sort of limits are you putting on the general queues?? > > Sully > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Oswalt > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:24 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question > > I have a monthly limit set for customers, but it's not strictly > enforced. > The only time I enforce it is when I see someone abusing the network. > In > EVERY case where someone was abusing the network, it was because some > teenager loaded Kazaa. Once I notified them, they dropped the download > settings and all is well. > > I'm in the process of installing Mikrotik at all locations and > implementing > "general" queues, but this is just to keep people from being too > excessive > in their use. I hate limits, but realize they are needed to keep people > honest and to keep me profitable. > > _____ > > Jeremy > > _____ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Mike @ Nitrous > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question > > When you say you don't limit uploads, do you not restrict the bandwidth, > or > are you referring to the aggregate upload total per month? If you are > not > restricting your bandwidth, how do you get around the hidden node issue? > We > have a YDI BCU for throttling/limiting bandwidth and I'll tell you it > had a > major impact on improving my performance. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeremy Oswalt > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:09 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question > > I'm competing against DSL. Unfortunately, my WISP business is just an > expensive hobby, but that will change this fall when I put up two more > towers (which should have been up two months ago). DSL is being rolled > out > in my area and it's had minor effects on my customers. Once people have > my > service, they don't switch. My pricing is cheaper (besides the expense > of > the radio) and I don't limit uploads like DSL. For web designers or > home > techies, this is a MUST. > > _____ > > Jeremy > > _____ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Mike @ Nitrous > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:09 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question > > Slightly off center of topic but I have a question re competition and > since > I use SB I'd like an apples comparative answer. > > For those of you serving residential customers, do you compete against > DSL > and/or cable? If so, how do you differentiate yourself? What is your > economic model (i.e. are you profitable yet)? > > > Just for the record we are a small (startup 3/15/03) wisp serving > residential customers in South Florida (Lightning Capital of the > World.....hooray). > > I have about 100 customers installed, with more in the wings and > unfortunately DSL just rolled in. > > > Thanks, > > Mike > Nitrous Networks > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
