I'm going to probably order some next week and put them up in a couple of
continuis problem area's to test them out in my network.  I can't loose
anything since no one has been able to connect to the AP for a long time, I
can only gain by them connecting...

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 17:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB


Hey Ray sorry for earlier I looked at the wrong price the I was looking at
the $364 price which includes everything

Right now I pay $240 for the CPE (SB)
$39 for 19DB ant
about $15 for cables and connectors Cat 5 and one n male to male barrel

Comes out to $294
two is $588

For $50 more I would get the two pack offer from Tony at Demarctech and give
them a try I think I will order a couple kits Monday or Tuesday. Has anyone
tried these yet? If so any feedback good or bad so we can use these in the
interim till SB gets there stuff together?

Thanks






----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB


I am again going to recommend switching brands.  Take a look at the
following AP and see if it meets your needs.
http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwb/rwb-map.htm I don't like
pointing to other brands on this list but in this case I have seen zero
indication of this issue being resolved.

Ray


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB


> Marlon,
> I wasn't arguing - I am very grateful for all the suggestions and all the
> help I am getting from this list, I couldn't do this without all of you.
I
> was just pointing out a fact.  And to add another fact to the pool that
also
> would show the switch is not the problem - I have one airPoint that has
NOT
> locked up.  So I have one Trango and one smartBridges that are working
fine,
> three (make that four counting the one I replaced) that lock up at least
> once a day.  I am NOT ruling out other possibilities and will keep
> investigating any and all suggestions and ideas.  I am looking at it
> logically.
>
> Thanks to all for your help and support,
> Gloria
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 2:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB
>
>
> > Why do you want to argue over helpful suggestions when nothing else
seems
> to
> > be working???  hehehehehe
> >
> > Women!  Victoria, you taught her this didn't you?  <ducking!!!!>
> >
> > OK, maybe this helps.  I just pulled out a Cisco 2916xl.  It worked fine
> > with some network cards and not others.  Started dropping massive
packets
> > one day.  Anything that didn't hit THAT switch was fine, anything that
> went
> > through it wasn't.  Everyone tells me that if there were no errors on
the
> > ports, no lights indicating trouble it should be working just fine.  It
> > wasn't.  Swapped it out and all ran fine again.  Please note that I said
> > that it worked fine with some nics always and some never and still
others
> > sometimes.  It's in the garbage now ;-).
> >
> > I've also had one still show traffic (Don't remember the brand) via
> randomly
> > blinking lights.  But no ip would pass.  Never figured that one out
> either.
> > It's also in the garbage.
> >
> > Your switch may very well not be your problem.  In fact it probably
isn't.
> > But it's something to check.
> >
> > Also, a note on the heat issue.  Remember that MOST of the heat in a
unit
> > will come not from the sun but the boards.  If there is a lot of traffic
> > passing through a unit it'll heat up faster in 70* weather than an idle
> unit
> > in 100* weather.
> >
> > marlon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 12:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB
> >
> >
> > > No, I haven't changed the switch yet, but again I go back to my main
> point
> > > here, which is - if it is something in our system design or
> installation,
> > > why is my Trango backhaul working perfectly on the same switch, same
> UPS,
> > > same everything?  Just because I don't use a high end managed switch
> > doesn't
> > > automatically mean that the problems are coming from the D-Link.
> > >
> > > Gloria
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 2:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB
> > >
> > >
> > > > Have you tried replacing the switch by chance with a different
brand?
> > > > I think you said D Link, not the stuff you build backbones on.
> > > > George
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Gloria Vester wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Can you tell me where to find the list of MAC addresses that are
> being
> > > > >recalled?  I am working on my RMAs now and I have a feeling that
all
> > five
> > > of
> > > > >the units I have are from the same batch.  When I asked them how
many
> > of
> > > my
> > > > >units to RMA, they said it was up to me and my "comfort level".  I
> > don't
> > > > >want to bash SB either - it is counter productive, and they are
being
> > > very
> > > > >supportive in trying to help.  But at the same time, I agree with
you
> > > that
> > > > >it would have been more cost effective to have just recalled and
> > replaced
> > > > >all the units that were suspect and saved themselves a lot of bad
> > > publicity
> > > > >and us a lot of lost revenue.
> > > > >
> > > > >I have had it pointed out to me from several different sources on
> this
> > > list
> > > > >that the problem is more than likely not with the airPoints, that
is
> > > > >probably a power issue or an environmental issue.  I am not ruling
> that
> > > out
> > > > >completely, and am continuing to investigate all possibilities.
But
> if
> > > it
> > > > >were something that we did wrong in our design and installation,
why
> is
> > > my
> > > > >Trango backhaul working perfectly using the same power source, the
> same
> > > > >cabling, the same switch, in the same temperature environment?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >Gloria
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 1:47 PM
> > > > >Subject: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>I am feeling a bit guilty for hammering sB so badly...but it is
> there
> > > > >>fault after all.  They could have resolved this a long time ago.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Here is the explanation as given to me from them (simplified
> version):
> > > > >>In June there were 2 production lines putting together sB
equipment.
> > > > >>One with bad chips, one with good chips.  My use of "bad chips" is
> my
> > > > >>own.  They call it "timing issue" chips.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Prior to getting stamped with MAC addresses, the units are brought
> > back
> > > > >>together on one line and stamped.  Therefore, there is NO way to
say
> > > > >>exactly which units have the "bad chips".
> > > > >>
> > > > >>This is why sB is not recalling the entire series of MAC
> > > > >>addresses...there are a bunch of good ones mixed in there as well.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>You may be thinking the same thing I am right now....hmmmm....why
> > > > >>wouldn't they just go ahead and recall the whole batch??
Hindsight,
> > > > >>they would probably have saved a lot of money in lost revenue from
> the
> > > > >>bad publicity.  And it would have MOST definitely saved us a TON
of
> > > > >>money, and therefore retained their good reputation from us.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Bottomline:  They are doing direct RMA's for all the bad June/July
> > > > >>units.  Just talk to them.  We are all bitching for good
> reason...but
> > > > >>just do the RMA.  It is all we can do.  Then hope they are really
> > > > >>sending us good stuff this time.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Sully
> >
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