Ooops, I'm sorry, I thought you said you has a bunch of broken ones.

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB


> Well, I could do that, but I only have one that is not in service and I
have
> already done an RMA on it.  If smartBridges wants me to send it to you
> instead of them, I would be happy to do that.  Any sbtech want to jump in
> here?
>
> Thanks for the offer,
> Gloria
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bullit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB
>
>
> > Gloria, can you send me one of those sB that keeps locking up? (fails)
> >
> > I can take a look at it for you at no charge (other than shipping). I'm
> not
> > saying that I'm a sB guru, but maybe I can help. Besides, sB is only
> located
> > about 5 miles from here and once I play with it, I can take it over to
> > Dilish and show him first hand.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 4:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB
> >
> >
> > > Marlon,
> > > I wasn't arguing - I am very grateful for all the suggestions and all
> the
> > > help I am getting from this list, I couldn't do this without all of
you.
> > I
> > > was just pointing out a fact.  And to add another fact to the pool
that
> > also
> > > would show the switch is not the problem - I have one airPoint that
has
> > NOT
> > > locked up.  So I have one Trango and one smartBridges that are working
> > fine,
> > > three (make that four counting the one I replaced) that lock up at
least
> > > once a day.  I am NOT ruling out other possibilities and will keep
> > > investigating any and all suggestions and ideas.  I am looking at it
> > > logically.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for your help and support,
> > > Gloria
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 2:46 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB
> > >
> > >
> > > > Why do you want to argue over helpful suggestions when nothing else
> > seems
> > > to
> > > > be working???  hehehehehe
> > > >
> > > > Women!  Victoria, you taught her this didn't you?  <ducking!!!!>
> > > >
> > > > OK, maybe this helps.  I just pulled out a Cisco 2916xl.  It worked
> fine
> > > > with some network cards and not others.  Started dropping massive
> > packets
> > > > one day.  Anything that didn't hit THAT switch was fine, anything
that
> > > went
> > > > through it wasn't.  Everyone tells me that if there were no errors
on
> > the
> > > > ports, no lights indicating trouble it should be working just fine.
> It
> > > > wasn't.  Swapped it out and all ran fine again.  Please note that I
> said
> > > > that it worked fine with some nics always and some never and still
> > others
> > > > sometimes.  It's in the garbage now ;-).
> > > >
> > > > I've also had one still show traffic (Don't remember the brand) via
> > > randomly
> > > > blinking lights.  But no ip would pass.  Never figured that one out
> > > either.
> > > > It's also in the garbage.
> > > >
> > > > Your switch may very well not be your problem.  In fact it probably
> > isn't.
> > > > But it's something to check.
> > > >
> > > > Also, a note on the heat issue.  Remember that MOST of the heat in a
> > unit
> > > > will come not from the sun but the boards.  If there is a lot of
> traffic
> > > > passing through a unit it'll heat up faster in 70* weather than an
> idle
> > > unit
> > > > in 100* weather.
> > > >
> > > > marlon
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Gloria Vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 12:24 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > No, I haven't changed the switch yet, but again I go back to my
main
> > > point
> > > > > here, which is - if it is something in our system design or
> > > installation,
> > > > > why is my Trango backhaul working perfectly on the same switch,
same
> > > UPS,
> > > > > same everything?  Just because I don't use a high end managed
switch
> > > > doesn't
> > > > > automatically mean that the problems are coming from the D-Link.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gloria
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 2:14 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Have you tried replacing the switch by chance with a different
> > brand?
> > > > > > I think you said D Link, not the stuff you build backbones on.
> > > > > > George
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gloria Vester wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Can you tell me where to find the list of MAC addresses that
are
> > > being
> > > > > > >recalled?  I am working on my RMAs now and I have a feeling
that
> > all
> > > > five
> > > > > of
> > > > > > >the units I have are from the same batch.  When I asked them
how
> > many
> > > > of
> > > > > my
> > > > > > >units to RMA, they said it was up to me and my "comfort level".
> I
> > > > don't
> > > > > > >want to bash SB either - it is counter productive, and they are
> > being
> > > > > very
> > > > > > >supportive in trying to help.  But at the same time, I agree
with
> > you
> > > > > that
> > > > > > >it would have been more cost effective to have just recalled
and
> > > > replaced
> > > > > > >all the units that were suspect and saved themselves a lot of
bad
> > > > > publicity
> > > > > > >and us a lot of lost revenue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I have had it pointed out to me from several different sources
on
> > > this
> > > > > list
> > > > > > >that the problem is more than likely not with the airPoints,
that
> > is
> > > > > > >probably a power issue or an environmental issue.  I am not
> ruling
> > > that
> > > > > out
> > > > > > >completely, and am continuing to investigate all possibilities.
> > But
> > > if
> > > > > it
> > > > > > >were something that we did wrong in our design and
installation,
> > why
> > > is
> > > > > my
> > > > > > >Trango backhaul working perfectly using the same power source,
> the
> > > same
> > > > > > >cabling, the same switch, in the same temperature environment?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > > >Gloria
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > >From: "The Wirefree Network" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > >Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 1:47 PM
> > > > > > >Subject: [smartBridges] Sticking up for sB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>I am feeling a bit guilty for hammering sB so badly...but it
is
> > > there
> > > > > > >>fault after all.  They could have resolved this a long time
ago.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Here is the explanation as given to me from them (simplified
> > > version):
> > > > > > >>In June there were 2 production lines putting together sB
> > equipment.
> > > > > > >>One with bad chips, one with good chips.  My use of "bad
chips"
> is
> > > my
> > > > > > >>own.  They call it "timing issue" chips.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Prior to getting stamped with MAC addresses, the units are
> brought
> > > > back
> > > > > > >>together on one line and stamped.  Therefore, there is NO way
to
> > say
> > > > > > >>exactly which units have the "bad chips".
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>This is why sB is not recalling the entire series of MAC
> > > > > > >>addresses...there are a bunch of good ones mixed in there as
> well.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>You may be thinking the same thing I am right
> now....hmmmm....why
> > > > > > >>wouldn't they just go ahead and recall the whole batch??
> > Hindsight,
> > > > > > >>they would probably have saved a lot of money in lost revenue
> from
> > > the
> > > > > > >>bad publicity.  And it would have MOST definitely saved us a
TON
> > of
> > > > > > >>money, and therefore retained their good reputation from us.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Bottomline:  They are doing direct RMA's for all the bad
> June/July
> > > > > > >>units.  Just talk to them.  We are all bitching for good
> > > reason...but
> > > > > > >>just do the RMA.  It is all we can do.  Then hope they are
> really
> > > > > > >>sending us good stuff this time.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Sully
> > > >
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