Bill Maas wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 03:28 -0800, TechKid PC wrote:
>> From: "Bill Maas" <b...@stsx.org>
>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:22 AM
>>
>>> On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 21:58 -0800, TechKid PC wrote:
>>>> I finally have the necessary cables and am able to access the comBIOS via 
>>>> a
>>>> USB->Serial->Null-Mode->Female-Gender-Changer adapter chain.
>>> With that you should have dealt with about 80% of standard possible
>>> trouble.
>> I know its a pretty convoluted setup. :-P
>> But it is the *only* thing that worked as my laptop does not include a 
>> serial port.
>> I am able to use the comBIOS without any problems, so it seems to be working 
>> fine.
>>
>>> If the Soekris site doesn't state that MicroSD cards are supported, the
>>> odds are against you.. (this is a case of "non-standard possible
>>> trouble")
>> That could very well be the case. The comBIOS however does see the card and 
>> list it when I first turn it on with the proper size.
>>
>> Out of curiosity, do you know why some CF brands work better then others 
>> when it comes to compabilitiy?
>> I could see if a manufacturer did not include support for a certain call or 
>> function, but if the card is booting just fine off of a desktop via a 
>> CF->IDE adapter how could it not work with a soekris box? (Asuming the disk 
>> geometry is not the issue, which mention at the bottom of this message)
> 
> Initialization and timing issues which are well beyond my knowledge, but
> I've been following this list for a while;). Search for "soekris boot
> problem" and you'll find plenty of background info. In general, the
> assumption that if "stuff" works fine in one context it should also work
> in another (apparently) similar context doesn't seem to hold well if
> computer hardware (or software, for that matter) is involved.
Except that I have had problems with a CF plugged into the onboard cf socket
that worked fine plugged into a $6 cf to ide adapter plugged into the ide
connector on the Net5501. This tells me that the implementation is poorly
designed on the Net5501.
> 
> To answer your question properly: no, there doesn't seem to be a way to
> reset the comBIOS to factory defaults on a Soekris box. It wouldn't help
> much in the case of a "wrong" baud rate setting either, because the baud
> rate would still be a valid one (or else it would be rejected in the
> first place, I assume) and the problem could therefore be delegated to
> the terminal configuration. I don't see how one could mess up the
> comBIOS settings in such a way that it would no longer be accessible.
> Unless that ConLock option does something funny with the UART.
> 
> Bill
> 
>>>> On a second note, I dont see any way to "hard reset" the bios settings 
>>>> that
>>>> are changed via the set command. What recovery options are available if 
>>>> one
>>>> sets an incorrect option in the combios and disables serial output (or
>>>> something similar) making it impossible to manage the device? There is no
>>>> removable battery and no reset jumper I can find.
>>> Section 2.5 of the Soekris net4801 manual, preliminary version 0.01;).
>> I read that section in the manual, as well as the in the wiki under:
>> http://wiki.soekris.info/What_do_all_those_BIOS_settings_do
>>
>> They just list what the options are for, not how to reset any of them if you 
>> are unable to see any output.
>>
>>
>> From: "686f6c6d" <686f6...@googlemail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 12:56 AM
>>
>>> I am no expert, but other than setting a unusual baudrate (which you
>>> would have to guess then to make it work again) I see no way to
>>> achieve such a mess-up. at least, I have not yet managed to do that.
>> Ah ok that makes sense and could be an "answer" to my question about not 
>> seeing a reset option for the bios.
>> If there are no settings that could be changed which could "lock" out the 
>> user then a reset feature is not needed.
>> Ive seen many people overclock a cpu/ram, set a password and forget it, etc. 
>> in their destktop PC's bios and the only way to fix it is the reset jumper. 
>> I was worried something similar could happen with the Soekris box.
>>
>> I assume that the conMute setting simply prevents output from being sent to 
>> the serial port, but still accepts commands?
>> (Such as set ConMute=Disabled)
>>
>>> Im' not sure from your explanation if you did this installation on a
>>> PC or your Soekris. If it was on a PC, did you give fdisk (maybe
>>> before, maybe during install) the correct disk geometry values as
>>> described in http://wiki.soekris.info/What_is_this_disk_geometry_thing
>> That could very well be the case. I didnt even think of checking the 
>> geometry values.
>> Ill give it a try and if it does not work I will pickup a sandisk CF card.
>>
>> Thanks for the replies,
>> Tom 
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