For the record, no, you don't paint yourself into corners like that.
A) a previous ruling that was settled and not appealed can't be reverted
due to a following ruling. Precedents establish protocols, but nothing can
be retroactive, or it'd be impossible to regulate anything.
B) even if it was the case, a friendly license of use under terms for a
royalty or for free can clear the lot, in any temporal term.

Of course it's unlikely to happen, because shave sells solely due to its
unicity, but it's a pain in the ass at practically every level. Of course
seeing it challenged by a more versatile and modern system prompted the
whole thing, thinking it was done in any other vein is naive at best.

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Ed Manning <etmth...@gmail.com> wrote:

> All good points.
>
> One further thought (and again, I'm not out to defend Joe, his product, or
> his, uh, marketing style):  I just read the article on the Disney suit.
> Now I'm no lawyer (do we have any on the list? would that be a good thing
> or not?) but I'm pretty sure that once he'd reached a settlement with
> Disney, he *obligated* himself, under the hurtful and dated system (how
> right that description is!), to "vigorously defend" his patent against all
> other potential infringers.  That is, unless he now pursues legal action
> against anyone and everyone who has a similar product that isn't
> *explicitly*  proven to be non-infringing, Disney could effectively argue
> that he wasn't really protecting his rights, but was only going after their
> deep pockets, and perhaps invalidate the settlement.  And don't think that
> Disney wouldn't be that petty...
>
> My feeling is that if Yeti is going to mention names, they need to
> describe what led to the impasse.  Was it a case of Joe's attorneys writing
> a nasty bigfoot letter out of nowhere, or was it a long, civilized
> conversation that ended in disagreement?  For all we know, Joe may have
> invited them to high tea to discuss the matter and Yeti said, "Nar, come
> and get us, you *(%^&&%!" (For the record, I do not believe this is what
> transpired.)  All I'm saying is that it's generally unfair to lay blame at
> a specific person's feet without some explanation.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Raffaele Fragapane <
> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> To be honest, I'm happy the Yeti guys are mentioning context and names.
>> The patent crap too often goes on behind closed courtains, unless it's
>> Apple and Google battling it out on a global scale, and people don't
>> realise how hurtful and dated the system is.
>>
>> The fact that a "best obvious" solution is getting in the way of
>> development is NOT good for any of us, and that a small developer, because
>> Joe isn't a large evil corp, decides to attack a much better competitor
>> that could wipe his only succesful product off the market in the next two
>> years through patent walling instead of through quality and improvments to
>> a notoriously flawed and aging product doesn't paint him in a good light.
>> Is this the kind of small developer you want empowered? I can only speak
>> for myself, but I'll say no.
>>
>> There are many patents that are just first come first served deployments
>> of ideas that had been around, sometimes even implemented, for a long time,
>> this is on the edge of those cases, if not squarely within the domain.
>>
>>
>


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