What if they came out with a version with no new features... however they had fixed 75 % of all known bugs and issues known to the soft. would many people be interested in that ? a clean optimisation of what is already there, tightening down the screws as it where?
On 15 March 2013 04:57, Sam <sbowl...@cox.net> wrote: > I didn't withhold my money for several lackluster releases. This year I > decided I would wait for them to prove they had something worth upgrading > to and so far it looks as if I will be keeping my money. The problem here > is that the proper channels don’t seem to care. If they did, they wouldn't > have moved most of the Softimage team to Maya. **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Matt Lind > *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:54 PM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* RE: 2014 New feature list... minor corrections list... you > decide**** > > ** ** > > If enough T-shirts don’t sell, the company will investigate as to why that > is and make changes. Companies don’t like spending and not seeing a return. > **** > > ** ** > > BUT, as a customer you shouldn’t withhold your money as first course of > action. You should be communicating your issues through proper channels to > get them resolved. If and only you’ve gone down all available channels and > still without resolution should you withhold payment in the form of using a > different product. Withholding payment should be the last resort, not the > first.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Matt**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com > [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Mirko > Jankovic > *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:47 PM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: 2014 New feature list... minor corrections list... you > decide**** > > ** ** > > If T-shirts are great with good looking designs and quality materials > and always putting out new series of designs people WILL keep buying it.** > ** > > If you are trying to sell same shirt over and over again and each > season offer a bit different color of same shirt then people will stop > buying it.**** > > ** ** > > simple as that following that analogy.**** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Matt Lind <ml...@carbinestudios.com> > wrote:**** > > No and no.**** > > **** > > Regardless of the product and the company, business is business. If your > company makes printed T-shirts and a particular T-shirt isn’t selling, > chances are the company will stop manufacturing it. It’s common sense.*** > * > > **** > > Use that analogy on Softimage – if people stop buying it, why would AD > continue development of it? Duh.**** > > **** > > As for upgrades, I never said there wasn’t anything worth the upgrade. > What I said is there were show stopping issues preventing our upgrade. > Very big difference between the two. We wanted to upgrade because of the > new features we needed (and requested), but bugs prevented us from making > the move.**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Mirko Jankovic > *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:04 PM**** > > > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: 2014 New feature list... minor corrections list... you > decide**** > > **** > > Yes let's think rationally...**** > > What you are kinda saying is let's all be investors so then maybe AD will > invest in development and all will be happy? Invest in something that so > far shown really really slow progress...**** > > You alone said that nothing between 7.5 and 2013 wasn't really worth of > upgrade. What does that tell us?**** > > Years and years developing and only now after couple of them you can > update and |STILL you alone have to work around... **** > > ooooook? :)**** > > **** > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Matt Lind <ml...@carbinestudios.com> > wrote:**** > > WTF? (part 2)**** > > **** > > I would definitely NOT want to stay on 2010. Way too many blocking issues > and bugs. We just upgraded to 2013 SP1 from Softimage 7.5 as it was the > first version since 7.5 which gave us the bare minimum feature set that > didn’t have major issues – and even then I had to write a lot of custom > code to work around known issues. I’m still looking at newer releases as > they come down the pipe as there are some pretty serious issues in 2013 SP1 > that we cannot live with for long. Hoping 2014 resolves them.**** > > **** > > People are already complaining about lack of development of SI. Customer > base is what determines how many resources AD puts into the product. If > fewer customers pay for support, how much developer time do you think is > going to be put into the product? In other words, by not paying you are > effectively killing the product. Sure, 3rd parties can supply some fancy > plugins, but that will only continue as long as there are paying customers > to support the product, and the 3rd parties ability to support the > product is dependent on their ability to get access to the necessary > components to write their tools. If AD doesn’t develop the core, the > 3rdparties cannot do their work. One hand feeds the other. > **** > > **** > > **** > > Let’s think rationally for a change.**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Mirko Jankovic > *Sent:* Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:35 AM**** > > > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: 2014 New feature list... minor corrections list... you > decide**** > > **** > > I'm sure that if other companies see what AD have prepared for lunch in > the next month or so, they (other companies) will rush in and implement > same or better in a month or two!!!**** > > I mean cmon who are we kidding :)**** > > **** > > And on it is true that 3rd party people brought more improvement's to SI > in the last coupl eyears than AD did.. so then just simple solution: stop > paying subs price to AD and start paying guys > that actually do improve Softimage :)**** > > I bet that a lot of people would rather still stay on SI 2010 for example > with fresh income of upgrades from Exocortex and rest of the crew. > Mentioning Exocortex too much but it would huge list to go over everyone > we all know who are they and we are all thankful for keeping SI > great... without them lets admit SI would be a lot lesser than it is now.... > **** > > **** > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Emilio Hernandez <emi...@e-roja.com> > wrote:**** > > Well that sure is something people using Houdini appreciate and we using > AD products regret. Perhaps updates are so Top Secret that AD doesn't > want other software companies to see what's coming up... More of the > same. In the meantime we can only hope that NEW IMPROVEMENTS to Softimage > are coming. Something like now you can have in Maya the Softimage color > scheme and vs., ...**** > > But for some small things actually the way Softimage is now with the > participation of Exocortex, Eric Mootz, and the other addons that are > coming out, I think that there is not too much to improve...**** > > **** > > 2013/3/14 Mário Domingos <mdomingos.p...@gmail.com>**** > > This is an example of a proper software update. **** > > **** > > > http://www.sidefx.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2447&Itemid=360 > **** > > Mário Domingos**** > > **** > > www.mariodomingos.com**** > > **** > > **** > > Sent from my super iPhone**** > > **** > > > On 14/03/2013, at 17:10, Doeke Wartena <clankil...@gmail.com> wrote:**** > > I would like if you can see the size of objects so it's easier to make > models for 3d printing.**** > > **** > > 2013/3/14 Francois Lord <flordli...@gmail.com>**** > > +1**** > > > > On 14/03/2013 09:45, Eric Lampi wrote:**** > > Guys, > > Don't you think it's better to just wait for the list to be released > before getting too worked up over it?**** > > **** > > **** > > > > **** > > -- **** > > **** > > **** > > ** ** >
