That would make sense if they actually did some developing which is really questionable lately
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Guillaume Laforge < guillaume.laforge...@gmail.com> wrote: > The freelancer market is not viable for a Software company unless the > product is simple enough or the user base is large. In our industry > (speaking about VFX mostly, not architecture visualisation and such) it is > not really the case. Microsoft, Avid and Autodesk never thought about > Softimage as a product targeted for freelancers. It is just a pure hazard > that it is one one the best 3D app on windows for such user :). > > Developing Software and maintaining them cost a lot of money. For a small > market like that, I can see two possibilities. One is to use open source > apps and the other is to use a product acquire by a such large company that > it will continue its development just for the joy of its users, not for the > money... > > This is just my little point of view :). > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Cristobal Infante <cgc...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> What about freelancers though? >> >> Surely you will want access to healthy freelance pool of people. So good >> luck finding a "Modo lighter" or a "Houdini Rigger". My guess is Maya is a >> more sensible option only for that looking from a production/managment >> perspective. >> >> >> On 27 February 2014 09:43, Jordi Bares <jordiba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> would you give more money to Autodesk after what they are doing to >>> pretty much *every package* ? >>> >>> Let's recap >>> >>> Image Modeller = dead >>> Stitcher = dead >>> Matchmover = dead >>> Combustion = dead >>> Toxik = dead >>> Naiad = dead until further notice >>> Softimage = still developed but tiny tiny increments >>> Motion builder = still developed but tiny tiny increments >>> Motion builder for mac = stopped development >>> FBX converter for mac = stopped development >>> Mudbox = still developed but tiny tiny increments >>> >>> The only good news is that Flame v2014 has been a major effort on their >>> side and gave me the confidence to give Autodesk one more year, lots of >>> people angry with the changes but at least there was some vision although >>> my fear is that they will enter now a marketing stage to help boost sales >>> and engage again and push sales after the debacle of their change in the >>> library which made pretty much every flame artist angry. >>> >>> >>> Now, what are the alternatives? >>> >>> Well, I leant something last year when Apple decision regarding Final >>> Cut Pro (I am sure nobody needs reminding)... and what I learnt is that >>> Apple's core market is not pro software, its market is hardware, specially >>> mobile hardware (laptops, phones, tablets...) >>> >>> If you apply the same thinking with Autodesk everything becomes clear... >>> Autodesk core market is not entertainment, it's architecture and >>> engineering and they don't really give a $@^$£% about us as the list above >>> demonstrates clearly. >>> >>> The new version of Softimage, Mudbox and Motion Builder will tell >>> exactly where they stand for third year in a row so eyes open... >>> >>> in the meantime I chose to focus on those companies that pro software is >>> their core business and have market share to gain, and these are the ones >>> >>> SideEffects (via Houdini) >>> Foundry (via Modo) >>> MassiveSoftware (via Massive) >>> >>> So my approach is simple, force myself to transition in an abrupt way >>> (nothing better than full inversion) and help these companies to polish >>> their software as much as possible by being in the beta process, report all >>> bugs, new ideas, pass them information of which things work from other >>> packages... Exactly what I did with XSI. >>> >>> And one more thing, after diving in Houdini I consider it *impossible* >>> for any software manufacturer to put the necessary resources to compete >>> with them (I will repeat it... IMPOSSIBLE), the architecture is so advanced >>> and so well designed it is a marvel of software engineering (and expensive >>> to build of course)... this is here to stay my friends. >>> >>> and its getting easier by the day. >>> >>> Jordi Bares >>> jordiba...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On 27 Feb 2014, at 08:42, Nicolas Esposito <3dv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Quick question regadring the switch to another software: >>> I saw that quite few people are considering Modo or Houdini as an >>> alternative to Softimage. This is due to the fact that you want to >>> completely leave Autodesk for good, or because an alternative like Maya >>> wont suite your needs? >>> I'm asking because I'm not familiar nor with Maya or Modo, so I was just >>> wondering what is the main reason >>> >>> >>> 2014-02-27 9:21 GMT+01:00 Sebastien Sterling < >>> sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> It's a system that seems to favour massive company's that can afford to >>>> routinely upgrade their packages, and screws the individual user for any >>>> sort of brand fidelity they may attempt to maintain; if you know you are >>>> going to get a discount (where it even 10%) on your next upgrade as a token >>>> to your brand loyalty, you would feel incentivised to perches >>>> upgrades, its marketing 101 no different then a loyalty card at your >>>> supermarket. >>>> >>>> The only reason for doing this is to intentionally loose a demographic. >>>> In the short term maybe this will allow AD to save money, freelancers are >>>> "infrequent in their purchases". They actually require a stable and >>>> competent package out of the box, something big companies usually pays >>>> their own Devs and TDs to sort out. Unlike big companies they also have the >>>> gall to voice their contempt of an inferior service. >>>> >>>> So yea this kinda makes sense for them in the short term to stabilise >>>> their key demographic, to the detriment of others probably makes the share >>>> holders smile as well. of course this also kills any form of growth within >>>> the potential market, but only time will tell what kind of impact that >>>> could have. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27 February 2014 08:16, Angus Davidson <angus.david...@wits.ac.za>wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Modo I am really impressed with it. Some tools are not 100% where >>>>> I want them yet but overall finding it very powerful. Mesh fusion is >>>>> awesome and saving my pennies to buy myself a copy of it. Stuff like >>>>> rigging is handled differently so it takes a bit to wrap your head around >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> I really love things like being able to edit an animation curve in >>>>> the viewport or create a custom UI that allows me to key specific things >>>>> on each frame for the selected controller. Their curve editor just feels >>>>> more responsive to me. >>>>> >>>>> You can see these on the new learn modo videos the posted recently. >>>>> >>>>> That being said its not as polished as softimage yet but you also >>>>> have to bear in mind that things like decent particles and animation have >>>>> only been around a few years in Modo. If Softimage does go EOL it where I >>>>> am headed for my personal stuff. Whether we go that way for our students >>>>> depends on a few more things. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Daniel Sweeney [dan...@northforge.co.uk] >>>>> *Sent:* 26 February 2014 11:19 PM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: new upgrade policy >>>>> >>>>> I am as quick as I can off the autodesk rollercoaster. A few things >>>>> have made my choice I will always love soft and use the tool when its >>>>> needed but I think I need to look for another avenue. Looking at modo? >>>>> Thoughts?? >>>>> >>>>> Autodesk bollocks. >>>>> On Feb 26, 2014 8:52 PM, "Kris Rivel" <krisri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I read it and couldn't help but say WTH?! >>>>>> >>>>>> Kris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Emilio Hernandez >>>>>> <emi...@e-roja.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Seems they need to fill the vault... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2014-02-26 14:29 GMT-06:00 Kris Rivel <krisri...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So...what's everyone's take on this gem? So if I don't upgrade to >>>>>>>> latest version now...then when I want that version I have to pay full >>>>>>>> price? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Frequently-Asked-Questions-about-the-Autodesk-Upgrade-Policy.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is >>>>>> confidential. 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