At 04:11 PM (-0700) 6/9/2003 (Monday), Gregory Longfellow wrote:

I've been successfully using fetchmail to get mail
from my speakeasy account, but recently switched to having them just forward
the mail (unmolested) to another address.

I have yet to see any breakage if you simply set up forwarding from your
speakeasy account to wherever.  Looks like they don't bother running
anything on forwarded mail.

Oh, and turning off the spam filtering option in the myspeak console hasn't
left any emails tagged -- maybe they fixed it?

Not to throw any more irons into the fire, but...

I have Speakeasy forward my mail to the shell server and use procmail/mutt there to manage everything myself. 

I just now checked to be sure -- all the messages ARE still being sent through the spamfilter:

        Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by
        mail15.speakeasy.net with AmikaGuardian-Server-1.1.2c-csav (Processed in
        0.665128 secs); 11 Jun 2003 00:55:14 -0000
        X-AmikaGuardian-Id: mail15.speakeasy.net105529291323611325
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Newslist : 0.35
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Junk Mail : -9.09
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Spam Language : 0.61
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Vectored : 0.35
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Spam Structure : 0.3
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Free : 0.59
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Spam Headers : 0.3
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Obvious Clues : 0.3
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Urgency : 0.02
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Exception : 0.35
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Newsletter : 0.45
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Spam : 0.91
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Override : 0.35
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Non-Junk Clues : -10.0
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Business Communications : 0.45
        X-AmikaGuardian-Category: AN:Non-Junk Content : -10.0
        X-AmikaGuardian-Action: Do Nothing()
        Received: from unknown (HELO newsletter.oreillynet.com) ([209.204.146.25])
           (envelope-sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
                  by mail15.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP

I don't actually mind this, as I used the X-AmikaGuardian-Action header to strengthen my procmail spam filtering.  However as the OP was complaining about: their "opt-out" isn't a full opt-out, but just a "opt-out of having the tagged messages moved into the spam-bucket IMAP folder".  And not having full opt-out is a Bad Thing [tm].

<PLUG> But it's the only thing I've considered them to have dropped the ball on in the almost 4 years I've been with them.  They are still one of the only national USA ISPs friendly to linux geeks.  Sonic.net in California is another one -- they actually let you setup your own mailing lists, ftp servers, and mySQL databases through the account management website. </PLUG>

Now to bring this thread back on topic, WHY Speakeasy went with this Amika thing and not Spam Assassin, I don't understand.  SA's spam score thing is WAY more useful than the whopping FOUR differentiators I've found Amika to use:

        X-AmikaGuardian-Action: Trigger(Junk Mail)
        X-AmikaGuardian-Action: Trigger(Spam)
        X-AmikaGuardian-Action: Trigger(Business Communications)
        X-AmikaGuardian-Action: Trigger(Do Nothing)

I much prefer the X-Spam-Level: *** header for controlling what score level I want to filter, without messing with the SA scoring system.

--JR











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