On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 9:06 AM <otr...@employees.org> wrote: > > Tom, > > > The advice from the chairs seems to be continue discussion. The > > problem with that is that EH insertion has been discussed ad nauseum > > over the past two years since the draft first appeared. It seems like > > we are at the point where the same arguments on the topic are just > > being rehashed on the list. As you mention above, the current > > consensus is that the EH insertion conflicts with RFC8200. Right now > > it seems like further discussion is open ended and without any > > constraints a likely outcome will be attrition and eventual > > acquiescence to accepting yet another non-conformant protocol that > > became so widely deployed so that it can be fixed. > > > > In light of this, can the chairs or AD provide some guidance or > > expectations on framing any further discussion on the topic to ensure > > that it's productive and the process is moving forward. > > You should absolutely continue the discussion. > Let me share a secret with you. Please don't share. > The 6man working group has been tasked by the IETF leadership to > ensure engaging discussions all year around. > I have not been told the hidden establishment agenda behind this, > but I can only presume that it is to keep the IPv6 enthusiasts > away from affecting the real work being done in other areas of the IETF. > > The leadership has tasked us with circulating the discussions between the > following topics: > - 64 bit boundary > - M/O bits > - ULA or not ULA > - Extension headers > - Defining new mechanisms for IID formats > > There is a scheduled switch to the M/O bits topic in mid January. > Please continue to the good work on EH in the meantime. > Ole,
Bear in mind that quality discussion is real work by those participating. It is a lot of effort to carefully read drafts, give clear feedback, and respond to rebuttals. I would like to think that the work individuals put in is justified by the outcome, and I assume it the chairs prerogative to steer the discussion as necessary to drive towards a discernible outcome in a finite amount of time. Tom > Ole > _______________________________________________ spring mailing list spring@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring
