The difference is in what you know at the time of the sale. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Church Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: owners information certificate
I sell cars. Family of 4 walks in, wants ot buy an F150 2 door, no backseat. I throw them out on their ear since I KNOW they will be strapping the baby in the middle seat belt and there's no belt left for the 12 year old. I feel so used. What if the husband had come in alone? I might have sold them a means of breaking the law, albeit inadvertently. I feel better now, their family is now safe. glc -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Pinigis Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: owners information certificate Don't fool yourself into believing that you can escape liability. His lawyers will claiming that you are the expert and you knew about their future plans and still put in an inappropriate system. Everything changes after a loss. Paul Pinigis -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: owners information certificate Part A: What do we (as an industry) do when an owner completes the Owner's Information Certificate incorrectly to deliberately mislead an AHJ? Part B: What do we do when they technically tell the truth as in building a warehouse that has no storage above 12' initially but they have every intention (because they tell you so) to store PODS 24' high after they get a CO? BTW, the reason I have been unsuccessful in convincing the owner of the proper level of protection is because there have 2 of these buildings built within 200 miles in the last few months and both of them had minimal systems. The installing contractor on one of the jobs told me that they were told the building was a spec warehouse and to protect it as an empty building and after they were done the owner would lease it to the PODS franchisee. His comment was "I don't know if that protects me or not" Legally? Morally I feel bound to walk away from this project but that just means that they will find someone else to do the job incorrectly and although there is no liability involved, there is still the knowledge that the building (Ord. Group II) will be grossly under protected. I know the argument that we are not police of the industry nor can we 2nd guess what the potential future occupancy of a building is or may be one day, but this is different and one of the 2 scenarios listed above is going to happen on this project. Thanks for your input, Greg Living Water Fire Protection, LLC 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 Fax: 850-937-1852 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
