Paul:

<My standard canned response>  

The performance parameters of fire department equipment should be known
to the serving agency and you should not have to guess.  Contact the AHJ
and ask them what standard procedure is when they hit an FDC.  Most
departments nationwide start at 150 PSI and dial up or down from there
based on two-way communication between the point team and the engineer.

The proof calc' is to assure that the minimum required residual pressure
can be delivered to the remote outlet(s) from the FDC, so once they give
you a pressure the usual practice is to measure the friction and
elevation losses from the FDC.  The flow rate is presumably 500 + 250
+++ as per NFPA 14.

Steve Leyton
PROTECTION DESIGN & CONSULTING

My opinion only - not necessarily a formal or informal interpretation of
the standard.


-----Original Message-----
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Pinigis
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Manual wet standpipes

If there is city water available, include it too. 

Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dewayne
Martinez
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:23 AM
To: SprinklerFORUM
Subject: Manual wet standpipes

We have a discussion in our office on the correct way to calculate a
manual wet standpipe.
Our local fire department pumper trucks are set for 150PSI @ 1500 GPM
and contain a 1500 gallon tank  For calculating a manual wet standpipe
back to the fire department connection, should we only use the rated
capacity of the pumper truck or are we allowed to add in the city water
pressure/flow available at the hydrant at which they hook up to?  IE:
Either treat it as a stand alone fire pump off a tank or as a standard
fire pump w/ city water supply added in.   
Thanks,
Dewayne
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