When we use "Tankers" we skip the draft tank, and go straight to "Drown"
that sucker! To get 6 tenders at the same time will take over 2 hours since
that will have to travel over 70 miles from opposite directions. Hence the
winged wonders! That and the verticals here range from 5000 to 11,500
(Treeline). Oh did I mention that 80% of the roads are Dirt! No 60 mph
loaded or empty( more like 35 to 40 mph), and you better hope the Jake
works.
Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Cahill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: Manual wet standpipes
I won't disagree but I did have a small caveat so as to not denigrate the
folks in 482 sq. mi. areas. "But the initial setup can take some time and
that's a function of how far you are from your neighboring FD's."
So in your case you can do 1000 gpm and I bet you can. But your set up
time
to get 5-6 tankers/tenders (assuming sustained 200 gpm a piece) is 30-60
minutes from your call for the tenders which may very well be 20 minutes
after the initial call for fire. Then again with a 4 mile round trip 200
gpm might stretch it a bit considering a 10 minute dump drive fill drive
cycle on a 2000 gpm tank. Around here my set up time is about 5-20
minutes
until I get to a sustained 1000 gpm with no more than 5 minutes from the
initial call for fire.
And for those that wonder about the tanker/tender east vs. west. In the
west tankers have wings. In many parts of the east we'd have no clue what
to call a fire fighting apparatus with wings but a UFO. Although as a FF
for the DOD at West Point Military Academy for a time we called them
Blackhawks and Huey's. And it's damn hard to get the water drop from a
west
coast tanker into the draft tank.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom
McMahon
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Manual wet standpipes
Chris:
Loved your dissertation up till the end, about the tanker/tender shuttle.
Our Fire District is about 482 Sq Miles, all the surrounding districts are
of similar size. We have a single 2200 Gal Tender 1984, most of the other
districts have the same. When our FDP finally arrives at a fire, sometimes
20 min. after the call, the haul distance for the tenders if often over 4
miles round trip, and that can very well be from a draft. Can't even keep
250 Gpm going until the second tender arrives (about 30 Min. later). I'd
love to see a 1000 Gpm tender operation, but it will never happen here.
On the same note we only have standpipes where there is water. Go figure?
Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Cahill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Manual wet standpipes
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