if the area increase is taken w/ sprinklers, then yes 13.  If not, and
the architect has opted for the frontage increase then still 13R.


Jamie Seidl

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Subject: RE: 13R in wolfs clothing?

If you have a 16k sq ft attic, I assume the footprint is greater than
12k sq ft.  Is this Type VA construction?  What is the construction
type?  That may drive it right into a 13 system by the building code. 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 2:36 PM
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Subject: 13R in wolfs clothing?

I am reviewing a set of plans for a 4 story plus partial basement motel.
The basement and first floor are designed per 13, the wood truss attic
is sprinklered, the sprinklers for the upper floors are fed from a
combination standpipe and the sprinklers on the floors are designed per
NFPA 13R. The contractor claims that the building is 13R and the areas
outside the dwelling units are protected per 13 in accordance with the
section of 13R.
To me this doesn't sit well. 
There is 28000 sqft of "incidental" space (excluding 16000 sqft
attic) and 48000 sqft of residential. Does this really count as a 13R?
Is there (or should there be) some reasonable limits as to the amount of
space outside a dwelling unit before it is kicked up to the next level
of protection? I can't find anything in 13R that would not allow this
arrangement. The local building code gives no guidance. 
Any thoughts?

Todd G. Williams, PE
Fire Protection Design/Consulting
Stonington, Connecticut
860-535-2080
www.fpdc.com 

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