Amtrol does NOT manufacture an expansion tank listed for fire  protection 
use. The Standard requires a LISTED expansion tank.
Young Engineering is the only company currently manufacturing expansion  
tanks listed for fire protection use.
 
Forest Wilson
Cherokee Fire
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/25/2007 6:33:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I would  suggest you consider Amtrol's Fire-X expansion chamber, I found them
to be  a bit cheaper, they assist with sizing (glycerin's expansion is much
less  than a glycol-water mix so the chamber size is smaller than glycol)  and
will send you the selection paperwork and sizing help.  I asked  about
software and was told "soon".  It was a benefit for me that they  were in New
England (RI) too.
Build a closet, insulate it and heat  it.

Funny you mention mid-landings.  We started doing them as  well, more for
liability reasons.  We also do Bathrooms if they have  any in their Basement.
We're seeing a trend for a half bath in many single  and multi residential
projects lately, and garages under the living areas  in part of the Basement
or stepped up, attached.  I just do a 2 or 4  head calc (if they have that
many) on the dry heads for the  garage.

Tom
GRS


Not to mention a listed expansion  chamber. Which in some cases is the most
expensive part of the  equation.

Richard L. Mote CET
Designer
Rowe Sprinkler Systems,  Inc

>
> NEW Question:
> Our practice has always been to  protect under stair mid-landings in 13D.
> There is no specific  requirement to do this but we have always felt the
> this is protection  for the "Main Route of Egress" which only makes sense
> if your entire  system is only to provide enough time for the occupants to
> safely  leave the home. What have others been doing and why?
>
> Thom  McMahon
>
>
> I assume that these systems are not CPVC since  CPVC is incompatible with
> most antifreeze.
>
> Paul J.  Pinigis, P.E.
> Chief Life Safety Engineer
>
>
> We  have been asked to convert many (100+) existing 13-R systems to
>  anti-freeze. The valve groups are
> installed in unheated garages (with  heat tape) but the garages are
> sprinklered and freeze
>  occasionally. Garages cannot be isolated for dry sidewalls due to
>  configuration. All homes are owned
> by a single  company.
>
> My basic question: Is this a good idea? Wouldn't it  be cheaper in both
> the long and short run to heat
> garages to  40+ F? These are in the NE USA but below the Mason Dixon
> line.  Comments welcome.
>
>
> Burton  Ford


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