Couldn't find any approved carbon steel. And probably won't. If the project mandate is to construct per the IBC, then design it, spec it and issue it per the code and let them do what they want with it after that. We've both fought these battles to the last breath and know they will do what they want to do regardless of our recommendation. The only hope is either a strong and insistent owner or Underwriter who won't permit this kind of stuff to be installed. But we are dealing with a different mindset and different way of doing things than here at home.
In dealing with an international client here in the states I've lost count on how many times they have said "but we do not do that back in ______". I finally had to cut him off and remind him that he wasn't back in the home country. They do not like our codes one bit, but they have to live with them to do business here. International projects are so much fun aren't they? Ought to try engineering in Russia, oy vey! Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lg.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Listed steel pipe for underground service Ladies and Gents: I've got a project in China where we have been instructed to use the 2006 IBC, IFC etc. For design and engineering purposes all disciplines per contract are to use the presumptuously named US International Codes series. However, there's always an exception isn't there. Because it's common in China, they want to use coated and wrapped carbon steel pipe for the underground. Even when it was legal, I never liked it because of the leakage potential, maintenance requirements, additional cathodic protection often required, etc. NFPA 13 and 24, permit steel pipe only if specifically listed for underground service. I don't think I've ever seen listed underground steel pipe. If any of you have, please advise. Regardless of whether or not there is such an animal, I may lose the battle since it won't likely be a case where a permit will be denied. Thanks for your help. Jim Roberts ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. ------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
