Google "icc legacy report window sprinklers" for the pdf. Scott Herrbold, P.E. Vice President Director of Plumbing and Fire Suppression
8150 N. Central Expressway ? Suite M-2100 ? Dallas, Texas 75206 Main 214.739.8880 ? Direct 214.739.4910 x 211 ? Cell 214.502.0488 ? Fax 214.739.1777 Please visit us at www.jjainc.com "This email and any attachments contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender promptly, by return e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments" -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Need Help fast Also the ICC evaluation service report on window sprinklers is available on line, but I'm not sure if your required to be a member to access it. Thom McMahon Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Hewitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:52 PM Subject: Re: Need Help fast > Let's be clear with this...for INSIDE applications > >>From Tyco's cut sheet... > The Model WS Window Sprinklers are listed by UL and C-UL, and NYC Approved > (MEA 335-01-E) for use as a "Specific Application Window Sprinkler" and as > open sprinklers for "Outside" use. These sprinklers are also recognized by > the International Code Council Evaluation Service, Underwriters > Laboratories of Canada (ULC), and the Building Materials Evaluation > Commission (BMEC) for use in the Province of Ontario, Canada as providing > a two-hour equivalency for a fire separation assembly, when installed in > accordance with the NES Report (NER 516), ULC/ORD-C263.1 Appendix A, and > BMEC Report (01-11-263). > > These heads are recognized by UL for use as "Specific Application Window > Sprinklers", but they are NOT recognized by UL, FM, or NFPA 13 as having > any equivalent hour rating. > > NFPA 13 does not address hourly equivalencies, purposely so. > > We have successfully argued many times that using the water curtain > provisions within NFPA 13 with standard pendent heads is sufficient. The > design parameters are virtually identical, the only difference being the > subjective reference to covering the entire surface of the glass. > > Depending on the installation, it is very possible that standard pendent > heads can be positioned to accomplish this when compared to this one > manufacturer's head. I also have to wonder why the other head > manufactuerers have not rushed to market with similar products. Are we > missing the forest for the trees? > > > > > Jeff Hewitt, PE, SET, SFPE (Professional Member) > Corporate Engineer > Bi-State Fire Protection Corporation > 241 Hughes Lane > St. Charles, MO 63301 > 636-946-0011 > 636-946-5172 (FAX) > > This e-mail and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be protected by > one or more legal privileges. It is intended solely for the use of the > addressee identified above. If you are not the intended recipient, any > use, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail is unauthorized. > If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately > at the above captioned address. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Kaczor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Karen Purvis" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:48 PM > Subject: Re: Need Help fast > > >> Hello Karen, >> >> Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 11:59:41 AM, you wrote: >> >> KP> I need to know if there is a code anywhere that states you can or can >> not >> KP> use a standard pendant head as a window wash. I have a glass wall >> that I >> KP> need to be fire rated and I have a contractor telling me by code he >> can use >> KP> a pendant head instead of a deluge head or a Tyco window sprinkler. >> The only >> KP> code I see that possibly address this is 21.20.1.2.1 and it only says >> you >> KP> have to use automatic heads. Any help!!!!! >> >> If this is an atrium wall, the prescriptive requirements are in IBC >> 404. >> >> A code-required fire rated wall must have been tested by an approved >> agency such as UL. Two ways to get any-hour rating is with >> Fire-protection-rated glazing in the wall or using the Tyco WS >> sprinkler which is 2 hour only which obviously qualifies for 1 hour. >> But the glass wall MUST follow the construction in the listings. >> >> Here are links to the Tyco information and the ICC-NES report. >> >> http://www.tyco-fire.com/TD_TFP/TFP/TFP620_07_2005.pdf >> >> http://www.icc-es.org/reports/pdf_files/NES/NER516.pdf >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> >> Daniel Kaczor, Plans Examiner >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
