I use the examples listed in 13-2007 A.3.7.1 and A.3.7.2. In A.3.7.1 par.
#4, last sentence puts your situation as obstructed. In A.3.7.2 par. B
defines what you have as unobstructed. I choose what's best for me in this
case. Until someone can tell me the error of my interpretation I proceed in
this manor. Remember that this is just my opinion and of very little value
to anyone other than myself. I myself would be interested in some input that
could enlighten me.

 

Russell Rewis
Brown Automatic Sprinklers, Inc.
107C Hemlock Street
Valdosta, Georgia 31601
229-244-8130
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I am missing something (would not be the first time).  The definition of 
unobstructed construction states that " . . . all construction types where 
spacing of structural members exceeds 7 1/2 feet on center", and I have 10 
foot on center.  Based on this, I went to unobstructed construction, 12 
inch maximum deflector to ceiling and applied obstruction rules to my 18 
inch deep concrete beams. 

How do I apply the 300 square feet you reference below (I have about  200 
square feet +/- to a bay)?  I see the 300 square feet referenced under 
obstructed construction.  Can I make a case for this?  Does the 300 square 
feet apply to all obstructed construction or only composite wood joists 
listed in 8.6.4.1.2 (4)?  Can I make a case for obstructed?

I am sure I am overlooking something. 

All help and comments appreciated.  This makes a big difference in what we 
can do.

Thanks again for all the great comments and insight.

Andrew Weisfield




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If the bays created by the beams were not larger than 300 s.f. then it 
would
qualify for obstructed and you could go the 1"/6"/22", but if they are
larger then your looking at bay spacing your sprinklers.

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Brown Automatic Sprinklers, Inc.
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Valdosta, Georgia 31601
229-244-8130
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I am in need of some clarification and thoughts.  Section 8.6.4.1.1 states 

that sprinkler deflectors for unobstructed construction shall be 1 inch to 

12 inches below the ceiling.  Section 8.6.4.1.1.3 says the requirements of 

8.6.4.1.1 shall not apply for light and ordinary hazard occupancies with 
ceilings that are non-combustible or limited combustible. 

I have a concrete ceiling with concrete structural beams that are 18 
inches deep and spaced 10 feet on center roughly.  By definition, this is 
unobstructed.  Can I place my sprinklers, by code, such that the deflector 

is more than 12 inches below the ceiling?  What is the lowest you can 
place your deflector if this is the case (we would be no lower than 22 
inches, but I am still curious what the limit is)?  We can eliminate some 
sprinklers if we can.  If not, the obstruction rules get in the way and we 

add some sprinklers.

Thanks.

Andrew Weisfield


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