There was an article by Ken Isman from the OFSA (Other Fire Sprinkler
Association) in Sprinkler Quarterly recently (April? A group of people
standing by a fire truck on cover) which ran thru some of the fire flow
calculations, and in it he referenced a previous SQ article from 2003 which
had more detail on the subject.

He discusses the difference between the IFC and ISO methods of determining
fire flows, and I recollect the ISO method was more attractive for reasons I
don't recall at this time.

If you have access to SQ, this might be exactly what you're looking for.

George Church
Rowe Sprinkler 

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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:54 AM
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Subject: RE: Fire Flow Calculation

Ron,

Just a few questions to stimulate the ole thought processes this morning ;-)

(1) What fire flow calculation method are you required (or allowed) to
utilize in the jurisdiction you are referencing?
(2) Have you calculated the "effective area" based on the allowed
compartmentalization of the method you are using? (Such as 2hr fire
separations, 4hr fire separations, etc.)
(3) How is the 200k sqft addition separated from the 150k sqft existing
building?
(4) How is the 50k sqft unsprinklered area separated out of the 150k sqft
existing area?
(5) What reduction in fire flow does you local authority allow for
sprinklers and is there a possibility of an alternate reduction percentage
(ie. 50% instead of 75%) based on the way the 50k sqft area is separated out
of the 150k sqft area?
(6) What was the orginal fire flow requirement for the existing 150k sqft
building and how was the unsprinklered 50k sqft addressed at that time?

Maybe we can get a better determination of the actual conditions you are
dealing with and a more definitive number than "ALL" or "NONE" in the fire
flow calculation process with a little more information from which to work.

Ray Vance
Chief Engineering Tech.
Wayne Automatic Fire Sprinklers, Inc.
www.waynefire.com




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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:36 PM
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Subject: Fire Flow Calculation

Looking for help to determine required fire flow. New addition to hospital
is 200k sqft. 150k sqft existing building with 50k sqft of the 150k not
sprinklered. Construction type is I-FR.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ
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