It seems we are doing the fire flow calculations for more and more
projects. In the not so distant past it was enough to furnish a flow
test and graph it out to 20 psi to show the available exceeded the
minimum required fire flow, but no more. AHJ's are requiring hydraulic
calc's of the private fire lines so now we lowly sprinkler contractors
are having to space hydrants and size loops. I had always thought that
it was the work of the civil engineer but it's amazing how few civil
engineers are set up to do the hydraulic calc's.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
Drucker
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:55 PM
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Likewise when licensed fire protection contractors get caught attesting
that
the vane type flow switch operates properly yet no ITC exists. Lots of
red
faces this morning, but not to worry the fire alarm contractor says he
tests
em all with a screwdriver.  

JD  

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Church
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:55 PM
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Never ceases to amaze me what "they" think WE should be expert at, yet
we
have township inspectors looking over our work who don't know what a
flow
switch is.

glc

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Ron
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Fire Flow Calculation

I think I have tried the ISO method before and unless I did something
wrong (easily) the fire flows I ended up with for large buildings were
greater than those in Appendix B.

At the very least I will need a lot more information on the existing
building before proposing something other than 6000 gpm to the AHJ.

Thanks to everyone for your input.

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix, AZ 


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