Yeah so? If the contractor digs in the dirt or installs pipe in a building that sits on the dirt shouldn't he be responsible for the condition of that dirt?
Sheesh, contractors now-a-days just want everything to be so easy! <just kidding> It's Friday and the weekend is almost here, time to lighten things up a bit. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ch2m.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fire Flow Calculation I recently read a spec that required the sprinkler contractor to take responsibility for the soils condition. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Fletcher, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems we are doing the fire flow calculations for more and more > projects. In the not so distant past it was enough to furnish a flow > test and graph it out to 20 psi to show the available exceeded the > minimum required fire flow, but no more. AHJ's are requiring hydraulic > calc's of the private fire lines so now we lowly sprinkler contractors > are having to space hydrants and size loops. I had always thought that > it was the work of the civil engineer but it's amazing how few civil > engineers are set up to do the hydraulic calc's. > > Ron Fletcher > Aero Automatic > Phoenix, AZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John > Drucker > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Fire Flow Calculation > > Likewise when licensed fire protection contractors get caught > attesting that the vane type flow switch operates properly yet no ITC > exists. Lots of red faces this morning, but not to worry the fire > alarm contractor says he tests em all with a screwdriver. > > JD > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George > Church > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Fire Flow Calculation > > Never ceases to amaze me what "they" think WE should be expert at, yet > we have township inspectors looking over our work who don't know what > a flow switch is. > > glc > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Fletcher, Ron > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Fire Flow Calculation > > I think I have tried the ISO method before and unless I did something > wrong (easily) the fire flows I ended up with for large buildings were > greater than those in Appendix B. > > At the very least I will need a lot more information on the existing > building before proposing something other than 6000 gpm to the AHJ. > > Thanks to everyone for your input. > > Ron Fletcher > Aero Automatic > Phoenix, AZ > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email > to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman at home.... _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
