Yeah so?  If the contractor digs in the dirt or installs pipe in a building 
that sits on the dirt shouldn't he be responsible for the condition of that 
dirt?

Sheesh, contractors now-a-days just want everything to be so easy!





<just kidding>  It's Friday and the weekend is almost here, time to lighten 
things up a bit.




Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fire Flow Calculation

I recently read a spec that required the sprinkler contractor to take 
responsibility for the soils condition.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Fletcher, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It seems we are doing the fire flow calculations for more and more
> projects. In the not so distant past it was enough to furnish a flow
> test and graph it out to 20 psi to show the available exceeded the
> minimum required fire flow, but no more. AHJ's are requiring hydraulic
> calc's of the private fire lines so now we lowly sprinkler contractors
> are having to space hydrants and size loops. I had always thought that
> it was the work of the civil engineer but it's amazing how few civil
> engineers are set up to do the hydraulic calc's.
>
> Ron Fletcher
> Aero Automatic
> Phoenix, AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> Drucker
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fire Flow Calculation
>
> Likewise when licensed fire protection contractors get caught
> attesting that the vane type flow switch operates properly yet no ITC
> exists. Lots of red faces this morning, but not to worry the fire
> alarm contractor says he tests em all with a screwdriver.
>
> JD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George
> Church
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fire Flow Calculation
>
> Never ceases to amaze me what "they" think WE should be expert at, yet
> we have township inspectors looking over our work who don't know what
> a flow switch is.
>
> glc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Fletcher, Ron
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:37 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fire Flow Calculation
>
> I think I have tried the ISO method before and unless I did something
> wrong (easily) the fire flows I ended up with for large buildings were
> greater than those in Appendix B.
>
> At the very least I will need a lot more information on the existing
> building before proposing something other than 6000 gpm to the AHJ.
>
> Thanks to everyone for your input.
>
> Ron Fletcher
> Aero Automatic
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
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