Don't give them any ideas.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron
Greenman
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fire Flow Calculation

I recently read a spec that required the sprinkler contractor to take
responsibility for the soils condition.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Fletcher, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> It seems we are doing the fire flow calculations for more and more
> projects. In the not so distant past it was enough to furnish a flow
> test and graph it out to 20 psi to show the available exceeded the
> minimum required fire flow, but no more. AHJ's are requiring hydraulic
> calc's of the private fire lines so now we lowly sprinkler contractors
> are having to space hydrants and size loops. I had always thought that
> it was the work of the civil engineer but it's amazing how few civil
> engineers are set up to do the hydraulic calc's.
>
> Ron Fletcher
> Aero Automatic
> Phoenix, AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
> Drucker
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fire Flow Calculation
>
> Likewise when licensed fire protection contractors get caught
attesting
> that
> the vane type flow switch operates properly yet no ITC exists. Lots of
> red
> faces this morning, but not to worry the fire alarm contractor says he
> tests
> em all with a screwdriver.
>
> JD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George
> Church
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fire Flow Calculation
>
> Never ceases to amaze me what "they" think WE should be expert at, yet
> we
> have township inspectors looking over our work who don't know what a
> flow
> switch is.
>
> glc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Fletcher,
> Ron
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:37 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fire Flow Calculation
>
> I think I have tried the ISO method before and unless I did something
> wrong (easily) the fire flows I ended up with for large buildings were
> greater than those in Appendix B.
>
> At the very least I will need a lot more information on the existing
> building before proposing something other than 6000 gpm to the AHJ.
>
> Thanks to everyone for your input.
>
> Ron Fletcher
> Aero Automatic
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
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