Hello Thom,

oopsie... I thought it was .10% or .10 psi safety in the calcs......



Too late on Friday Drinking has started....


Friday, July 25, 2008, 5:00:29 PM, you wrote:

> Remember that 250# is a fat guy on a ladder, or actually a fat guy falling
> off his ladder, grabbing the sprinkler pipe to save himself from a broken
> neck, cause his boss gave him a safety harness and all the necessary gear,
> and fall protection training, but he thinks he doesn't need it to just run
> up the ladder and tighten a leaking head. 
> (This in no way reflects on, or is in ref. to Tom D.)
> The five times is just a safety factor, same as you 10% or 10Psi in the Hyd.
> Calc.

> Thom McMahon, SET
> Firetech, Inc.
> 2560 Copper Ridge Dr
> P.O. Box 882136
> Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
> Tel:  970-879-7952
> Fax: 970-879-7926



> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Willis
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:28 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: beam strength for hangers

>  
>>But that didn't answer your question. In my opinion NFPA-13 only
> applies to the hanger assembly itself. Does that mean the sprinkler
> designer is off the hook ?. By no means >someone has to do the load
> calculation otherwise the application is incomplete.  

> Exactly. The paragraph I mentioned (9.2.1.3) pertaining to the Building
> Structure in 13 has been used to make the sprinkler contractor hire a
> structural engineering firm to provide proof that we were in compliance
> with Chap 9 of Our standard. In Todd's situation.. the hanger has to
> meet 5 times plus 250. Since it is not listed under the section for
> Building Structure in 13, the 5 times does not need to be added, only
> the weight plus 250.

> R/

> Matt
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